Will you give Manny full credit if he beats Cotto @ 145 for the ww belt?

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  • MOTHER DUCKER
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    #81
    Imo fight at 147lb but make a limit to what Cotto can be come in at fight night, i don't understand how catchweight can be for a belt but nvm. If it goes ahead at 145 i will give Pac big props tho. I dont think 145 to 147 is anywhere near same as what happened to Dela hoya tho + the age factor with him. So yeah big credit to Pac if he wins even if he blasts him out early.

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      #82
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      My point is where does it stop?

      If he can make 147, he can make 146.... well he made 146, so he can make 145...

      At what point DOES it start effecting the fighter?

      That was my point... f.uckboy
      and even then, we all know this isn't entirely true.

      If one pound or two or three is so easy to shed,

      why didn't Guzman, or Castillo, or Corrales, etc, not make their weights?

      I like rooting for Pacquiao, but in this instance, I can't ride with that. He went up to fight DLH at 147, he needs to do the same for everyone else. If he can't, just stay at 140.

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        #83
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        My point is where does it stop?

        If he can make 147, he can make 146.... well he made 146, so he can make 145...

        At what point DOES it start effecting the fighter?

        That was my point... f.uckboy
        You're not using common sense right now, dude.

        Let me break it down: He has made 146 more times than 147 on the dot. So making 145 is more reasonable. But at 144, he's losing 2 pounds. Ok. At 143 he's losing 3 more pounds than is usual.

        Losing one pound more than average is different than losing 3 more pounds than average. And losing 3 pounds will effect you WAY more than 1.

        I'm sure you know this but you're for some reason using a very ******ed argument.

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          #84
          Originally posted by K-Nan
          You're not using common sense right now, dude.

          Let me break it down: He has made 146 more times than 147 on the dot. So making 145 is more reasonable. But at 144, he's losing 2 pounds. Ok. At 143 he's losing 3 more pounds than is usual.

          Losing one pound more than average is different than losing 3 more pounds than average. And losing 3 pounds will effect you WAY more than 1.

          I'm sure you know this but you're for some reason using a very ******ed argument.
          Because I know what it is like to dehydrate to make weight.

          Cotto is DRIED the HELL out at 147..... hence why he puts on THIRTEEN pounds of water in TWENTY FOUR hours. so two pounds IS a lot... even ONE pound, when being TRULY dehydrated, is A LOT...

          ESPECIALLY... when you are fighting the best fighter in the world... its not like hes fighting Jennings at 145...

          We are arguing an un-arguable point.

          FACT: Me, NOR YOU... knows if Cotto WILL be effected by 145lbs or not.

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            #85
            yes i would give him credit, & so would history.

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              #86
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              Well first of all, it doesnt mean I agree with even THAT catchweight...

              Second of all, even though technically yes you can win the 147lb belt at 145lbs... I dont agree with it.

              If YOU want to come in at 145.. or hell even 140... then so be it.

              But dont make the 147lbs champion... who is defending the 147lb belt... come in at 145lbs. Thats how I feel about it.
              That's fine with me. This fight is much bigger than any vacant 147lb alphabet belt cotto picked up, imo, this is about Badassism

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                #87
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                Because I know what it is like to dehydrate to make weight.

                Cotto is DRIED the HELL out at 147..... hence why he puts on THIRTEEN pounds of water in TWENTY FOUR hours. so two pounds IS a lot... even ONE pound, when being TRULY dehydrated, is A LOT...

                ESPECIALLY... when you are fighting the best fighter in the world... its not like hes fighting Jennings at 145...

                We are arguing an un-arguable point.

                FACT: Me, NOR YOU... knows if Cotto WILL be effected by 145lbs or not.
                No he doesn't "dry the hell out" to make 147. He's not squeezing in to the weight. He's not dropping underwear. Against Judah, Mosley, Clottey.. His biggest WW fights? Yup- he was coming at 146. Which means that he is making weight relatively comfortably.

                It was in '06 that he was fighting at 140. Making 147 is nowhere near hell for him.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  That's fine with me. This fight is much bigger than any vacant 147lb alphabet belt cotto picked up, imo, this is about Badassism
                  Anyways Id love to sit here and argue an unarguable topic... but I gata go get FNR4 :roy4:

                  I love you knan

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Joe Kapp
                    and even then, we all know this isn't entirely true.

                    If one pound or two or three is so easy to shed,

                    why didn't Guzman, or Castillo, or Corrales, etc, not make their weights?
                    well for one all three of those guys didn't take care of their bodies very well. Guzman came into training camp weight almost 190 pounds!

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by K-Nan
                      No he doesn't "dry the hell out" to make 147. He's not squeezing in to the weight. He's not dropping underwear. Against Judah, Mosley, Clottey.. His biggest WW fights? Yup- he was coming at 146. Which means that he is making weight relatively comfortably.

                      It was in '06 that he was fighting at 140. Making 147 is nowhere near hell for him.
                      If he isnt... then why is he putting on 13 pounds the next day?

                      And floyd puts on 3.

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