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  • #81
    Originally posted by Dorruel View Post
    Obviously Manny doesnt think he can beat a healthy Cotto. You have more confidence in Manny than he does in himself
    dude , do you think manny has any idea what is going on?

    lol

    we follow the negotiations more than he does.

    sometimes we confuse boxers with boxing fans.

    we follow this **** with a passion.

    he's probably playing basketball and drinking san miguels right now with no idea what is going on.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Iceta View Post
      Does Pacquiao really even want to fight Cotto? I don't understand why he feels he needs this advantage when it's Cotto who appears to be deteriorated. This kind of changes my opinion about this fight being such a forgone conclusion. And that may be Roach's angle to make people think this fight will be competitive. I don't know for sure. But after seeing Cotto struggle with a fighter who is good, but economical with his offense made me think that he didn't stand a chance against the Pac Man. But these weird ass weight demands that Roach and Pacquiao are demanding makes me wonder if they even think they can beat Cotto if he's on top of his game. Cotto is no De La Hoya or Hatton, I'll give him that.
      again.

      if you want to blame someone , blame roach.

      all manny does is sign the contracts when his advisors tell him to.

      as long as the money is good , he doesn't care.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
        Hi Samurai



        It's not only a business, it's also a sport, and when boxing loses its credibility as a sport, it will lose is viability as a business.

        And unlike Roach, I think Manny does care about his legacy, and he is in danger of throwing away a chance to reach for the stars and achieve true greatness, and to be rated alongside fighters like Henry Armstrong.

        I used to think that Pacquiao was a completely different kettle of fish from Floyd Mayweather, and that he puts legacy above risk-free money, but his reputation in that respect is being seriously damaged now.


        Did you think Cliff Rold's article was preachy, moralistic BS? To me it summed up why I love boxing.
        I know i said that i wasnt gonna respond to another one of your pretentious, high moral ground, conceited statements but i just cant help it.

        Its another one of those boxing is dying rant, blah, blah. Boxing has endured far worser situations than miguel cotto agreeing to a catchweight of 145 for his welterweight belt vs pacquiao.

        It survived & is still a sport after lalonde vs leonard catchweight, it survived the pernell whitaker vs julio cesar chavez catchweight & robbery, it survived the oscar vs hopkins catchweight, & it will continue to survive & be a viable sport after the pacquiao vs cotto catchweight.

        It will just be footnote when all the history is said & written.

        Ayatollah Dave Rado high moral supreme leader of boxingscene.

        Just like the supreme leader of Iran,

        nobody listens to him........
        Last edited by DonTaseMeBrah; 06-20-2009, 07:38 PM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Iceta View Post
          Does Pacquiao really even want to fight Cotto? I don't understand why he feels he needs this advantage when it's Cotto who appears to be deteriorated. This kind of changes my opinion about this fight being such a forgone conclusion. And that may be Roach's angle to make people think this fight will be competitive. I don't know for sure. But after seeing Cotto struggle with a fighter who is good, but economical with his offense made me think that he didn't stand a chance against the Pac Man. But these weird ass weight demands that Roach and Pacquiao are demanding makes me wonder if they even think they can beat Cotto if he's on top of his game. Cotto is no De La Hoya or Hatton, I'll give him that.
          Manny cant beat Cotto. Manny and his fans know that deep inside a healthy Cotto beats Manny. This is why they want Cotto at 143

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          • #85
            Originally posted by ShoguNinja View Post
            Why are Cotto fans think that Miguel will drained himself at 143? Is he old or shot? I don't think so... Cotto is a "Tough Bad Dude" in full welterweight and his the bigger guy between the two. This is the mega-fight that he is asking Arum for a long time before hi9s thinking jumping ship to other promotions. Giving Pacquiao some concessions for being the P4P King and a much Bigger Draw is not bad for him because his if fighting a guy who have more to lose and little to gain. But, i hope Pacquiao Fights Mosley if this match don't workout?!
            GTFO with that Bull ****. Cotto will be giving away the split teh ring and the venue, and he needs to get himself to a unhealthy weight also? **** that.

            Manny have a lot to gain here, Cotto is a Top WW and have a belt. this could be mannys 7th weight class championship.

            147 or **** off. if you cant beat a fighter at his best then dont fight him at all!!!!!!!!!
            Last edited by Ch@mpBox@PR; 06-20-2009, 07:40 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
              dude , do you think manny has any idea what is going on?

              lol

              we follow the negotiations more than he does.

              sometimes we confuse boxers with boxing fans.

              we follow this **** with a passion.

              he's probably playing basketball and drinking san miguels right now with no idea what is going on.
              Manny deff supports what Roach is saying otherwise Roach wouldnt be saying it. In the end whos the boss Manny or Roach??
              and people criticize Miguel for his "my company" statements

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                GTFO with that Bull ****. Cotto will be giving away the split teh ring and the venue, and he needs to get himself to a unhealthy weight also? **** that.

                Manny have a lot gain here, Cotto is a Top WW and ave a belt. this could be mannys 7th weight class championship.

                147 or **** off. if you cant beat a fighter at his best then dint fight him at all!!!!!!!!!
                6th weightclass championship

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                • #88
                  Very misleading title to this article. It's nothing more than Roach saying what he would LIKE to happen, but, like any first offer in a negotiation, there's room to bargain. Nothing here says Roach won't budge on that demand, and a single pound or two isn't going to derail a Top Rank moneymaking mega fight. Bob just won't let it happen that way.

                  Deal will be finalized for 144.5, IMO.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by mmayer1981 View Post
                    If Pacquiao wins this fight he does not deserve to be called welterweight champion. The fight will not be at the 147lb limit and Cotto will most certainly drain himself to get down to the weight Roach wants. If Pacquiao is going to tell Arum to go ahead and make this fight happen, he should do it at the welterweight limit. I dont care if you are the so called pound for pound king. He will be called the best welterweight in the world if he beats Cotto. Which is a bunch of bull ****.
                    Manny dont care what you call him...His fans dont care what you call him Welterweight Jrwelterweight catchweight call it anything you want ...As of now and also when he beats Cotto all that anyone can call him is, The Best in the World1234

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Dorruel View Post
                      6th weightclass championship
                      I stand Corrected, you are right!!!!!!

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