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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
    You can't be serious. I'd LOVE to see this but who else is there for Pacquiao? Shane is too dangrous, too durable, It ain't gonna happen. So who? Valero, Bradley (Is the fight against Nate official?) even that doesn't bring any money. Pacquiao and Roach should suck it up and except the catch weight of 145.
    Mosley isn't complaining I rather Pacquiao fight him. JMM is also a better fight, and is a 50-50 pickem fight.

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    • #22
      ok im sick of freddy roach trying to drain opponents

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      • #23
        ***** move by Roach!!!!!

        Cotto previously accepted a 145 catchweight(Wich is still Bull ****).

        WW limit 147. Cotto is a WW if they dont want Cotto at 147, then Go fight Bradly or Ortiz at 140, and stop the ridiculous catcweights.

        Im glad Cotto is smart enough and he aint bending for dollars!!!

        Again **** Catchweights. getting people to unhealthy weights whether is lower or higer is a ***** ****ing move!!!!!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by F-22 Raptor View Post
          lol i just thought, why not 143 and a half. hahaha might as well
          143.5 is where I would have it. Pacquiao would be coming up 3.5 and Cotto would be goign down 3.5.

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          • #25
            I wish Manny could override Roach or Arum. This fight should either happen at 147 or 140. Nothing more, nothing less.

            Manny will fight anybody at any weight if Roach or Arum told him to do so. Heck he moved up from lightweight to 145 to fight ODLH and he didn't know that DLH was going to come in like that. He was ready to fight a tip-top shape DLH. Let them fight at 147 or 140. That's it.

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            • #26
              Pacquiao vs Bradley
              Cotto vs Shane
              Clottey vs Paul Williams

              I'm sure Mangler's feeling this one eh?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                If trainer Freddie Roach sticks to his demand, a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto could collapse. Roach wants Cotto to come down to a catch-weight of 143-pounds for a fight with Pacquiao. Cotto's nutritionist told Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes both fighters, that Miguel could only make a "safe" weight of 144 to 145-pounds at most. The Cotto camp would rather have it at 145. Roach wants to get Cotto down as low as possible. [details]
                I hope it falls through. Boxing doesn't need circus acts in which one fighter is weight drained. It needs meaningful fights in which both fighters fight at their very best and the best man wins. If Roach doesn't think Manny can be competitive at Welterweight, he should just tell him not to fight Welterweights. His demands are bull**** and are turning a great sport into a farce.

                And I think Roach is seriously under-estimating Pacquiao's ability in any case. Pac is now an exceptionally strong and powerful Jnr Welterweight. Where he started is irrelevant. He was the first Jnr Welterweight that Hatton has ever faced who looked stronger and more powerful than Hatton in the ring. It's hard to believe that someone who destroyed the #1 rated Jnr Welterweight as comprehensively as he did couldn't be competitive only one weight class higher. He might not be the favourite to win, but he has made a habit of upsetting the odds and might do it again. Armstrong was only a Lightweight when he won and defended the Welterweight crown. If Pac wants to go down in history as someone who can be compared with the likes of Armstrong, he needs to forget about this bull**** circus act and dare to be truly great, by fighting Cotto at 147. If he really thinks he can't do that, he should forgetr about fighting Welterweights and clear out his own division, like all great champions do. There are plenty of good fights to be made at Jnr Welterweight.

                Roach is making Pac look like another Floyd, too afraid of taking any risks, putting risk-free big money ahead of his legacy. That's sad, because until recently, that's not something he could have ever been accused of doing.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 06-20-2009, 06:56 PM.

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                • #28
                  lets fight @ 122 GOD he already fought @ 147 PacCrap lloron

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by F-22 Raptor View Post
                    ur righ sami, but damn 143 what the f.uck is going on with freddie, pac can go to 147 for oscar but not miguel...? the blatant want to have a weak cotto raises some alarms though...not enough to be hatin
                    My man, it's about negotiation, that's all. If you wanted to buy my car and you offered me 20K, I'd ask for 30K knowing it was unrealistic. We would meet in the middle.

                    With Oscar / 147, Roach has made it pretty clear that it was a one-off that happened to be worth the massive payday. He thinks Manny fighting at 147 is pushing his luck. I agree, as Pacquiao only hydrates to approx. 148 on fight night. I mean damn, he ate full meals on the day of the Hatton weigh-in and still only reached 138lbs. He is not a big dude.



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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by street bully View Post
                      143.5 is where I would have it. Pacquiao would be coming up 3.5 and Cotto would be goign down 3.5.
                      We already know how Pac looks above 140, he was fast, furious and carried some hurt. We don't know how Cotto will look below 147, but I'm guessing it would be too much of a weight drain. This doesn't sound fair.

                      147 or 140. Period.

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