DRAINED BS is OVERRated

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Majority of people here probably didnt know that this is not the 1st time this is gonna happen ( Pac-Cotto ).


1st pt. It happened before

on Sep 18, 2004 Bernard Hopkins then the undisputed MW champion agreed to defend his 160 lbs belt againts Oscar DelaHoya @156lbs. Thats 4 lbs below the middleweight limit of 160 and just 2lbs above the weight limit of 154.


If Cotto-Pac will be made at 144. That will be 4 lbs above the Jr welterweight limit of 140 and just 3 lbs below the limit for Welterweight.


2nd pt.

Its not Pacquiao's Fault that ODLH hired the wrong people. Its not in the contract that DLH should only be 147 at fight night. DLH's team f_u_c_k up their job so does that make this a valid excuse? Pac still manhandle him drained or not.


156 lbs 40 yr old Hopkins a natural LightHEAVYWEIGHT took care of business. DLH did not its a legit loss for him.

When even Freddy Roach says he walks into the ring and during the stare down he can see DLH arm and sees he just had an i.v., there's problems there. DLH was weight drained, old and about 10 years past his prime.

Let it go, Pac won but he doesn't beat a prime DLH, no way, no how, not in a million years.

End of thread.

[miron_lang]

how was DLH drained if he was at 147 weeks before the fight?

That's their terminology for that f_ucked up mistake. Nobody believed him when DLH said he was at 145 2 weeks from the fight. It turns out that DLH is not lying. They still call that drained.

[miron_lang]

When even Freddy Roach says he walks into the ring and during the stare down he can see DLH arm and sees he just had an i.v., there's problems there. DLH was weight drained, old and about 10 years past his prime.

Let it go, Pac won but he doesn't beat a prime DLH, no way, no how, not in a million years.

End of thread.

I agree with you. That's not the point of this thread. Smaller or bigger men trying to get a money fight usually ends up in the middle.

the smaller man moving up usually is at a disadvantage.

[gopi11]

I do not think Cotto compares to B-Hop either in regard to his ability to manage his body. B-Hop is the best at this kind of thing, Cotto could be fine but B-Hop is an entirely different animal then Cotto (when it comes to training, lifestyle and most likely diet ~ B-Hop is a freak).

Exactly! Just like Oscar and Cotto are two different animals too. It doesn't mean that Oscar, who's dead at the weight when he went down will definitely happen to Cotto too...

[gopi11]

It may or may not be a big deal, but to say just because B-Hop can do it so can Cotto is asanine. You have yet to prove that Cotto is anywhere near B-Hop's level of dicipline, spartan lifestyle or desire to keep 100% in shape.

History is littered with people that do not think that the small things matter.

You'll be surprise too see what people will do if there's huge $$$$$ in front of them...

[fcastro1]

If Pac doesn't fight Cotto at 147 I wouldn't give him FULL credit if he beat Cotto.

And still I think Cotto is too big for Pac and if he isn't unhealthy come fight night he will possibly KO Pac...

would you give cotto credit for beating pac at 147 and outweighing him by 12 pounds.

[gopi11]

Oscar's nutritionist thought he would be fine aswell~, the thing about people you pay is that they tend to tell you what you want to hear.

Didn't it crossed your mind that Pacman got something to do with the beat down at the very least? Oscar threw more punches in the first 3 rounds, the problem was, Pacman ain't nowhere to be found. Pacman also made sure Oscar will pay for his misses, and pay he did that no matter what he does, he can't help himself but cower in a corner and was hoping and praying that Pacman will soon take a break.

[BattlingNelson]

would you give cotto credit for beating pac at 147 and outweighing him by 12 pounds.

Well if pac weighs in at 135 it's really nobody's fault but his own.

[fcastro1]

in my opinion this catchweight scenario is an excuse for the haters to put scorn on pac even before the fight happens. just to belittle his accomplishments like they always do. i reiterate its unfair for cotto to lose 2pounds but its fair for pac to be outweighed 12 pounds. thats double standards right there.

[fcastro1]

Well if pac weighs in at 135 it's really nobody's fault but his own.

who is p4p 1 who is the draw. he is the meal ticket so why should he have the handicapp. fighters should give in to him.