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  • The Gambler1981
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    #51
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    I agree, guys like Floyd and Bhop, these guys arent killing themselves to make weight IMO... people like Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Clottey... these guys are severely dehydrating.

    I mean if you put on 13 pounds 24 hours later... then means you just cut that much water. And when you get down to that last pound or two... ask them if TWO MORE is a big deal or not.. Theyd prolly shoot you.
    Ask them that while they are cutting those last 2 pounds and you are liable to get the taste slapped out of your mouth.

    If it was not a big deal why even ask for those couple pounds?

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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Ask them that while they are cutting those last 2 pounds and you are liable to get the taste slapped out of your mouth.

      If it was not a big deal why even ask for those couple pounds?
      I know exactly

      It's not like Cotto just made 146lbs so making 145lbs is no big deal.

      As if Cotto will stay at 146lbs after the fight I think that's a total bullsiht reason to say Cotto "should" be fine. And it's not like Cotto just put on the most impressive fight I have ever seen... if that's 146lbs then I honestly don't want to see 145lbs... and against Manny.

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        #53
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        I know exactly

        It's not like Cotto just made 146lbs so making 145lbs is no big deal.

        As if Cotto will stay at 146lbs after the fight I think that's a total bullsiht reason to say Cotto "should" be fine. And it's not like Cotto just put on the most impressive fight I have ever seen... if that's 146lbs then I honestly don't want to see 145lbs... and against Manny.
        s0 the reason why his performance against clottey was disappointing its because he weighs 146? if cotto didnt get cut against clottey, the result of the fight might be different.

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          #54
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          I know exactly

          It's not like Cotto just made 146lbs so making 145lbs is no big deal.

          As if Cotto will stay at 146lbs after the fight I think that's a total bullsiht reason to say Cotto "should" be fine. And it's not like Cotto just put on the most impressive fight I have ever seen... if that's 146lbs then I honestly don't want to see 145lbs... and against Manny.
          Good point.

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            #55
            Originally posted by xcaret's lover
            s0 the reason why his performance against clottey was disappointing its because he weighs 146? if cotto didnt get cut against clottey, the result of the fight might be different.
            No... Clottey is a tough fight for anyone, and the cut definitley effected his performance.

            But I also saw stamina issues as well, not just him getting hit or in a tough fight.

            Clottey gives anyone hell IMO...

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              #56
              Originally posted by xcaret's lover
              s0 the reason why his performance against clottey was disappointing its because he weighs 146? if cotto didnt get cut against clottey, the result of the fight might be different.
              Also a good point, I think the cut was more of a factor than the weight. Im sure Manny would cut Cotto up too though.

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                #57
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                I know exactly

                It's not like Cotto just made 146lbs so making 145lbs is no big deal.

                As if Cotto will stay at 146lbs after the fight I think that's a total bullsiht reason to say Cotto "should" be fine. And it's not like Cotto just put on the most impressive fight I have ever seen... if that's 146lbs then I honestly don't want to see 145lbs... and against Manny.
                If Cotto like made 146, fully dressed, with some boots on maybe a coat with change in his pocket, then yea he could easily make 144 or so.

                Also Cotto had massive troubles at 140 (none of the fighters that gave Cotto trouble at 140 can hold Pacman's jockstrap, people explain those off as weight issues, if that is the case to me you have to take a long look at where Cotto is at right now. I am skepitcal as of right now, but he could pull it off I don't know for sure.

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                  #58
                  drained is a piss-poor excuse.

                  fighters have months to prepare for a fight. have the best people around. people who know what the healthy weight to fight. dont accept a fight in a weight were your performance will diminish, then cry on how you were "weight drained". it has its negative effects but it aint the only factor that determines a fight.

                  a lot of people act as if dlh being "weight drained" is the only reason he got his ass whooped...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                    2 to 3 lbs can be an awful lot for certain fighters. To others it might mean nothing but some discomfort. Each fighter is different.

                    Notorious weight cutters like Castillo and Gatti would be in some **** trying to cut an extra 2-3 lbs to all the weight they were already cutting. They already starved and dehydrated themselves to begin with. Fighters like Mayweather and Judah would probably be fine, they don't cut much weight to begin with.

                    Cotto @ 145 should be alright in my judgement, but I'm not in his camp seeing his eating and cutting habits.
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    This post should be a thread.

                    I agree. That post should be a thread lol.


                    I just hope Cotto-Pac would be competitive to avoid the excuses later.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by miron_lang
                      Majority of people here probably didnt know that this is not the 1st time this is gonna happen ( Pac-Cotto ).


                      1st pt. It happened before

                      on Sep 18, 2004 Bernard Hopkins then the undisputed MW champion agreed to defend his 160 lbs belt againts Oscar DelaHoya @156lbs. Thats 4 lbs below the middleweight limit of 160 and just 2lbs above the weight limit of 154.


                      If Cotto-Pac will be made at 144. That will be 4 lbs above the Jr welterweight limit of 140 and just 3 lbs below the limit for Welterweight.


                      2nd pt.

                      Its not Pacquiao's Fault that ODLH hired the wrong people. Its not in the contract that DLH should only be 147 at fight night. DLH's team f_u_c_k up their job so does that make this a valid excuse? Pac still manhandle him drained or not.


                      156 lbs 40 yr old Hopkins a natural LightHEAVYWEIGHT took care of business. DLH did not its a legit loss for him.

                      how the hell does someone with THAT much REP and that many points get banned???? damn!

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