DRAINED BS is OVERRated

[The Gambler1981]

Because if it did kill him to make 146 he wouldn't have already said he'd fight Pacquiao at 145 (ages ago). If 146 was such a problem he would flat out refuse to fight at 145.

I don't have much of a problem with the fight, I am just saying that the weight can effect Cotto really and that is part of my thought process in putting money (a large sum ) on Pacman.

Also saying that B-Hop well known to be the most spartan guy in teh sport could do this, so Cotto can do it is a pretty dumb thing to say. He may be fine though, but that is not a foregone conclusion (considering his past struggles at 140 with guys much less talented then manny).

[S A M U R A I]

All you guys need to know is that if cotto doesn't think he can fight effectively under 147 lbs, he should not sign the contract

You got it. Agree 100% with this. Personally though, I don't care what weight they fight at, I see Pacquiao winning this fight even at 147.



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[The Gambler1981]

You got it. Agree 100% with this. Personally though, I don't care what weight they fight at, I see Pacquiao winning this fight even at 147.

I tend to agree on that

[5punchcombo]

Majority of people here probably didnt know that this is not the 1st time this is gonna happen ( Pac-Cotto ).


1st pt. It happened before

on Sep 18, 2004 Bernard Hopkins then the undisputed MW champion agreed to defend his 160 lbs belt againts Oscar DelaHoya @156lbs. Thats 4 lbs below the middleweight limit of 160 and just 2lbs above the weight limit of 154.


If Cotto-Pac will be made at 144. That will be 4 lbs above the Jr welterweight limit of 140 and just 3 lbs below the limit for Welterweight.


2nd pt.

Its not Pacquiao's Fault that ODLH hired the wrong people. Its not in the contract that DLH should only be 147 at fight night. DLH's team f_u_c_k up their job so does that make this a valid excuse? Pac still manhandle him drained or not.


156 lbs 40 yr old Hopkins a natural LightHEAVYWEIGHT took care of business. DLH did not its a legit loss for him.

doesnt Matter if its a welterweight title at stake than it should be at athe welterweight limit

[Sorbetero]

Oscar's nutritionist thought he would be fine aswell~, the thing about people you pay is that they tend to tell you what you want to hear.

oh i see. and oscar could have weighed at 147 but he weighed 145 lbs.
but remember cotto weighed 146 in clottey fight. i think cotto can handle losing 1 or 2 more lbs.

[The Gambler1981]

oh i see. and oscar could have weighed at 147 but he weighed 145 lbs.
but remember cotto weighed 146 in clottey fight. i think cotto can handle losing 1 or 2 more lbs.

Things like that matter though, Oscar messed up bad I doubt Cotto will mess up as badly but that still does not mean it will have zero effect on him~. It matters, if it did not matter why ask for the couple pounds?

[Thread Stealer]

only to a few conspiracy theorists on NSB. Cotto would do it for the biggest payday of his career. 2-3lbs is steak dinner. He'd gain it back minutes right after the weigh in.

2 to 3 lbs can be an awful lot for certain fighters. To others it might mean nothing but some discomfort. Each fighter is different.

Notorious weight cutters like Castillo and Gatti would be in some **** trying to cut an extra 2-3 lbs to all the weight they were already cutting. They already starved and dehydrated themselves to begin with. Fighters like Mayweather and Judah would probably be fine, they don't cut much weight to begin with.

Cotto @ 145 should be alright in my judgement, but I'm not in his camp seeing his eating and cutting habits.

[THE REED]

2 to 3 lbs can be an awful lot for certain fighters. To others it might mean nothing but some discomfort. Each fighter is different.

Notorious weight cutters like Castillo and Gatti would be in some **** trying to cut an extra 2-3 lbs to all the weight they were already cutting. They already starved and dehydrated themselves to begin with. Fighters like Mayweather and Judah would probably be fine, they don't cut much weight to begin with.

Cotto @ 145 should be alright in my judgement, but I'm not in his camp seeing his eating and cutting habits.

This post should be a thread.

I can't stand it when people say... well he just made 146lbs so 147 should be easy.

As if after the fight he will just stay at 146lbs.

No. He has to do it all over again, and a fighter like Cotto who balloons to 160lbs the very NEXT day, obviously is dehydrating the hell out of himself. So 2 pounds IS a big deal. Someone like Floyd who walks around at 155lbs in between fights, it wouldn't even make a difference IMO.

[The Gambler1981]

2 to 3 lbs can be an awful lot for certain fighters. To others it might mean nothing but some discomfort. Each fighter is different.

Notorious weight cutters like Castillo and Gatti would be in some **** trying to cut an extra 2-3 lbs to all the weight they were already cutting. They already starved and dehydrated themselves to begin with. Fighters like Mayweather and Judah would probably be fine, they don't cut much weight to begin with.

Cotto @ 145 should be alright in my judgement, but I'm not in his camp seeing his eating and cutting habits.

Indeed, I am not saying it will effect him but the possibility is there and every pound lower raises that possibility.

Also B-Hop ihas a crazy lifestyle, I can not really think of another fighter (even Floyd) who lives like B-Hop, that is why he is B-Hop though. I know for sure I would not put Cotto and B-Hop in the same sentence as far as weight control, which was why I got involved in this thread to begin with.

[THE REED]

Indeed, I am not saying it will effect him but the possibility is there and every pound lower raises that possibility.

Also B-Hop ihas a crazy lifestyle, I can not really think of another fighter (even Floyd) would lives like B-Hop, that is why he is B-Hop though. i know for sure I would not put Cotto and B-Hop in the same sentence as far as weight control, which was why I got involved in this thread to begin with.

I agree, guys like Floyd and Bhop, these guys arent killing themselves to make weight IMO... people like Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Clottey... these guys are severely dehydrating.

I mean if you put on 13 pounds 24 hours later... then means you just cut that much water. And when you get down to that last pound or two... ask them if TWO MORE is a big deal or not.. Theyd prolly shoot you.