No Offense to PAC Fans, but...

[ИATAS]

Don't blame Pac, blame Mosley and all those that want to fight Pac so badly.

Pac moved up to 140 and everyone at 147 is drooling over the possibility to fight Pacman because he is the new Golden Boy, they all want that money. Mosley is absolutely obsessed with fighting pacquiao, he wont even talk about anyone else.

Pac doesn't need these guys he's the King of boxing right now and the biggest money maker, he could fight anyone and it would sell well at this point.

No one is forcing Cotto or Mosley to fight Pac, if anything it's the other way around - they are chasing the almighty dollar.

[THE REED]

I would agree but Pac is too big of an oppurtunity to be ignored, I couldn't blame any of these two guys, beating Pac would make them much bigger in the publics eye plus a lot richer. And that in itself would make Cotto vs Mosley rematch a much bigger fight.

Let's just be honest.

How much credit do either of these winners get?

Mosley/Cotto beat PAC?
What will they Say?


Pac beats Cotto/Mosley UNDER 147lbs?
What will they Say?


I would rather see two top ww champions fight and have a recognized champion in the WW division, rather than hear "Well Pac was too small" or "Cotto was weight drained".

[THE REED]

Don't blame Pac, blame Mosley and all those that want to fight Pac so badly.

Pac moved up to 140 and everyone at 147 is drooling over the possibility to fight Pacman because he is the new Golden Boy, they all want that money. Mosley is absolutely obsessed with fighting pacquiao, he wont even talk about anyone else.

Pac doesn't need these guys he's the King of boxing right now and the biggest money maker, he could fight anyone and it would sell well at this point.

No one is forcing Cotto or Mosley to fight Pac, if anything it's the other way around - they are chasing the almighty dollar.

Lets try not to pretend that Pac isn't targeting them as well...

If not, then exactly WHO is he targeting in HIS division?

[ИATAS]

He just beat the king of 140 in dominating fashion. Cotto wasn't even an option until his people started talking about him losing a couple pounds and fighting pacquiao.

Mayweather was the fight Pac & co. really wanted, so blame Mayweather for being a *****. And mayweather never fights any 147 pound fighters anyways so it really doesn't mess up the picture.

[madsweeney]

I think Mosley should be over Cotto... but that point is moot.
Lets say for instance I agree with you.. they are EVEN at the top.

WELL LETS FIGHT THEN?!

Two EVEN WW Champions... and they can't take their eyes off Pac.

Wouldn't be an issue is PBF made himself available for Pac

[THE REED]

He just beat the king of 140 in dominating fashion. Cotto wasn't even an option until his people started talking about him losing a couple pounds and fighting pacquiao.

Mayweather was the fight Pac & co. really wanted, so blame Mayweather for being a *****. And mayweather never fights any 147 pound fighters anyways so it really doesn't mess up the picture.

So thats the reason he can't fight at 135 or 140?

My point still stands... how much credit will either get for a win?

Mosley and Cotto beat Pac, and what will they say? Pac was too small...

Pac beats Mosley and Cotto UNDER 147lbs... what will they say?


If you want to fight welterweights, fight them at welterweight. If they are too big for you, then stay in your weightclass until you can fight them in theirs.

[Ishy Aytan]

I'd rather see Mosley-Cotto at 147 than Cotto or Mosley vs Pac at 145.


HOWEVER


If Pac moves up to 147 and fights Cotto or Mosley i think its a fight we'd all like to see. I'd rather watch Pac vs Mosley or Cotto at 147 than Mosley-Cotto at 147.

[SuckaPunch]

Let's just be honest.

How much credit do either of these winners get?

Mosley/Cotto beat PAC?
What will they Say?


Pac beats Cotto/Mosley UNDER 147lbs?
What will they Say?


I would rather see two top ww champions fight and have a recognized champion in the WW division, rather than hear "Well Pac was too small" or "Cotto was weight drained".

I think one big point that you're missing is that majority of casual fans don't even know all the different of weight classes, let alone a few lb. differences in catch-weight.

How much credit will the winners get in terms of the scenarios you pointed out? TONS OF CREDIT from a casual fan's perspective.

Now let me ask you something, what do you think is the ratio of casual/hardcore fans who buy the tickets and PPV's?

[THE REED]

I'd rather see Mosley-Cotto at 147 than Cotto or Mosley vs Pac at 145.


HOWEVER


If Pac moves up to 147 and fights Cotto or Mosley i think its a fight we'd all like to see. I'd rather watch Pac vs Mosley or Cotto at 147 than Mosley-Cotto at 147.

Yes, that would be very interesting.. because if Pac beats Cotto/Mosley at 147lbs.. then it is a TRUE legit win.

He beat them at their best weight.

Under 147lbs, then there is excuses and reasoning for a loss with Cotto/Mosley.

[ИATAS]

So thats the reason he can't fight at 135 or 140?

My point still stands... how much credit will either get for a win?

Mosley and Cotto beat Pac, and what will they say? Pac was too small...

Pac beats Mosley and Cotto UNDER 147lbs... what will they say?


If you want to fight welterweights, fight them at welterweight. If they are too big for you, then stay in your weightclass until you can fight them in theirs.

Who is "they?" The only people who actually care about catch weights or being too small or too big are hardcore boxing fans. To the majority of fans and casual fans, none of that **** matters. Have you ever talked to a non-boxing junky who casually follows the sport?? They don't know **** about catch weights. If Pacman beats the crap out of Cotto and/or Mosley at 144, it's because Pacman is the reincarnation of bruce lee. If cotto and/or mosley beat pacman, it's because they are bad ass mofo's.

It's true, ask any casual fan about the Pacman/Oscar fight. You wont hear the words "weight drained" or anything of the sort.