Miguel Cotto: “I Had a Duty To Finish The Fight”

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #91
    Originally posted by formarkiz
    Cotto proved what most true boxing fans already knew. He's not a GREAT boxer, he doesn't have GREAT defense, and he's a little more of a puncher than an average puncher. He was completely outclassed in terms of boxing skills on sat. He does have heart, but he looked like he was in survival mode from the 7th on. What is funny to me is that most Cotto fans that hate Mayweather, say they hate him because he doesn't stand and trade like Cotto. Cotto wouldn't stand and trade with the furthest thing from a knock out artist. He'll trade with Gomez and Jennings, but any decent fighter he fights, he'll be on his bike by the middle of the fight. I guess there is not a question about whether he'll beat Mayweather anymore if he struggle with a guy that doesn't have half the skill.
    Ever consider that it may have been because he couldn't see and that the horrible cut was affecting him so he changed strategy?

    You think skill is the only thing that wins fights? That shows me you don't fight. I've seen heart beat skill in many a fight. And there is plenty of question as to who wins that fight, here's why. Floyds best win at ww is Judah, who cotto also has a win over (and a guy you probably feel is more skilled than cotto). Cotto also has a win over shane (another guy with more skill) and has now fought 5 top 10 ww's. Floyd has fought none and is trying to fight small guys. If floyd was fighting top 10 wws you would see flaws in his game too.

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    • Osirus022
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      #92
      Originally posted by formarkiz
      Cotto proved what most true boxing fans already knew. He's not a GREAT boxer, he doesn't have GREAT defense, and he's a little more of a puncher than an average puncher. He was completely outclassed in terms of boxing skills on sat. He does have heart, but he looked like he was in survival mode from the 7th on. What is funny to me is that most Cotto fans that hate Mayweather, say they hate him because he doesn't stand and trade like Cotto. Cotto wouldn't stand and trade with the furthest thing from a knock out artist. He'll trade with Gomez and Jennings, but any decent fighter he fights, he'll be on his bike by the middle of the fight. I guess there is not a question about whether he'll beat Mayweather anymore if he struggle with a guy that doesn't have half the skill.
      I was waitin on u to say that Mayweather is your MAN, just a hater that just rides on Floyd. first off, he was great in the first 3 rounds, when the GASH opened his eyebraw thats wen right hands were comin in thru his blind eye, thats why he cannot defend it, BECAUSE HE CANT SEE IT COMING. You do NOT take shht to consideration because youre a true Cotto hater and a Mayweather hugger. Get facts straight then repost. By the way... Clottey will KILL Mayweather ANYTIME ANYDAY.

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      • Osirus022
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        #93
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        Ever consider that it may have been because he couldn't see and that the horrible cut was affecting him so he changed strategy?

        You think skill is the only thing that wins fights? That shows me you don't fight. I've seen heart beat skill in many a fight. And there is plenty of question as to who wins that fight, here's why. Floyds best win at ww is Judah, who cotto also has a win over (and a guy you probably feel is more skilled than cotto). Cotto also has a win over shane (another guy with more skill) and has now fought 5 top 10 ww's. Floyd has fought none and is trying to fight small guys. If floyd was fighting top 10 wws you would see flaws in his game too.
        You outworked him with that

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        • knwledg
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          #94
          Cotto

          No doubt cotto deserves a lot of respect for fighting 3 quarters of the fight with such a bad cut but if he really wanted to move on to bigger and better things he had to continue and win easily which didnt happen but he did show everyone what people in boxing already knew.

          He's not as good as he thinks he is. i think he really believes in his head that he is as good as hes been built up to be. hes been hand fed boxers that were always smaller and weaker than him that made him look good up until he faced mosley. thats when it all changed. all of a sudden he couldnt knock out a decent sized and well rounded welterweight. Everyone also noticed that hes basically a 6 round fighter against good oppostion. After that he runs out of gas and has no choice but to get on his bike. Everyone also noticed he cant hurt anybody. people might argue what he did to judah but like clottey judah gave up and decided to act hurt either by low blows or gettn dropped instead of taking advantage of a hurt and scared cotto. plus judah never shouldve stepped up from junior welter, thats his weight. just like pacquiao has no business at welterweight, he shouldnt try to take on real welters.

          pacquiao knows that cotto hasnt recovered from the margarito fight and he also knows he cant go deep into a fight without getting tired and getting cut espcially after sat. even if pac cant knock him out he will make cotto look real bad when he starts to drop his hands. plus cotto will have something to prove until he can dominate someone again so he will take any good fight offered.

          I give cotto 3 more fights then hell be done.

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            #95
            Cotto needs to be trained by Emmanuel Steward. I hope he considers this for the Pacman fight. Ugh... This man needs a miracle in his corner. Steward knows what he is doing! He would be great for Cotto! Probably improve his defense for uppercuts!

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            • Osirus022
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              #96
              I might be late Posting this but i JUST saw the fight again, i gotta say that Cotto won 6 if not 7 of the rounds (meaning round 10 which he may have stole wit that beautiful left hook to the head) plus the Knockdown on the 1st round which will make it 115-112 of not 114-113 for Cotto. Great fight, Cotto really does have a heart and is a very respectable fighter, thats why I love him as a boxer . Clottey just stopped throwing in the last rounds which Cotto took advantage of, those rounds were the most important ones in the fight, much respect for Clottey, he should get a good WW fight his next fight, if not Berto then Williams, i think Berto will not get up with Clottey @ this stage.

              Also, in the last 5 to 6 secs of round 5 notice that Clottey caught Cotto twice with low blows and it did bother Cotto it was obvious that Cotto kinda held on a bit while defending himself instead of walkin away. Great fight with 2 great Fighters.

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                #97
                Originally posted by knwledg
                No doubt cotto deserves a lot of respect for fighting 3 quarters of the fight with such a bad cut but if he really wanted to move on to bigger and better things he had to continue and win easily which didnt happen but he did show everyone what people in boxing already knew.

                He's not as good as he thinks he is. i think he really believes in his head that he is as good as hes been built up to be. hes been hand fed boxers that were always smaller and weaker than him that made him look good up until he faced mosley. thats when it all changed. all of a sudden he couldnt knock out a decent sized and well rounded welterweight. Everyone also noticed that hes basically a 6 round fighter against good oppostion. After that he runs out of gas and has no choice but to get on his bike. Everyone also noticed he cant hurt anybody. people might argue what he did to judah but like clottey judah gave up and decided to act hurt either by low blows or gettn dropped instead of taking advantage of a hurt and scared cotto. plus judah never shouldve stepped up from junior welter, thats his weight. just like pacquiao has no business at welterweight, he shouldnt try to take on real welters.

                pacquiao knows that cotto hasnt recovered from the margarito fight and he also knows he cant go deep into a fight without getting tired and getting cut espcially after sat. even if pac cant knock him out he will make cotto look real bad when he starts to drop his hands. plus cotto will have something to prove until he can dominate someone again so he will take any good fight offered.

                I give cotto 3 more fights then hell be done.
                With the bold right there you are underrating Clottey, lets not forget that he is fighting the best top Welterweights in the sport right now, and he is beating them. If you have top Fighters in one division you wont see a knockout often, more of a great 12 round fight. You are talkin a lil bit too much. We all know that Mosley is great, and Cotto beat him, what that makes Cotto????? Lets not get on the Marga subject because we all know what went down after losing like that and getting exposed. Anyway with that said, i think your talkin a bit too much when you talk about him not being that good, if he wasnt that good i doubt that he would have made it thru that fight wit Clottey ESPECIALLY with an open cut like the one he had.

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                • formarkiz
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Osirus022
                  I was waitin on u to say that Mayweather is your MAN, just a hater that just rides on Floyd. first off, he was great in the first 3 rounds, when the GASH opened his eyebraw thats wen right hands were comin in thru his blind eye, thats why he cannot defend it, BECAUSE HE CANT SEE IT COMING. You do NOT take shht to consideration because youre a true Cotto hater and a Mayweather hugger. Get facts straight then repost. By the way... Clottey will KILL Mayweather ANYTIME ANYDAY.
                  Please dude, I understand that he had a gash over his eye, but that doesn't explain why Clottey was faster than him, or why he fought conventional with that cut eye in the front, or that half ass shoulder/horrible mayweather he tried to do with his cut eye the only thing exposed. During the fight you could see Cotto's punches from a mile away. Cotto and in addition to the right hand that couldn't see he got hit repeatedly with the uppercut. You're obviously blinded by your love of Cotto's nuts, next you're gonna tell me that the busted ass girl in your profile pic is hot.....LOL

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                  • Walt Liquor
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by knwledg
                    No doubt cotto deserves a lot of respect for fighting 3 quarters of the fight with such a bad cut but if he really wanted to move on to bigger and better things he had to continue and win easily which didnt happen but he did show everyone what people in boxing already knew.

                    He's not as good as he thinks he is. i think he really believes in his head that he is as good as hes been built up to be. hes been hand fed boxers that were always smaller and weaker than him that made him look good up until he faced mosley. thats when it all changed. all of a sudden he couldnt knock out a decent sized and well rounded welterweight. Everyone also noticed that hes basically a 6 round fighter against good oppostion. After that he runs out of gas and has no choice but to get on his bike. Everyone also noticed he cant hurt anybody. people might argue what he did to judah but like clottey judah gave up and decided to act hurt either by low blows or gettn dropped instead of taking advantage of a hurt and scared cotto. plus judah never shouldve stepped up from junior welter, thats his weight. just like pacquiao has no business at welterweight, he shouldnt try to take on real welters.

                    pacquiao knows that cotto hasnt recovered from the margarito fight and he also knows he cant go deep into a fight without getting tired and getting cut espcially after sat. even if pac cant knock him out he will make cotto look real bad when he starts to drop his hands. plus cotto will have something to prove until he can dominate someone again so he will take any good fight offered.

                    I give cotto 3 more fights then hell be done.
                    I agree with some of your post, but don't forget that when you fight elite fighters (and cotto has fought many elite fighters, this is indisputable). Any flaws in your game are going to come out. Last time Floyd fought and elite fighter (castillo) he showed flaws in his game as well. As did Chavez against Taylor etc....

                    Miguel has a problem with fight strategy IMO, he needs a someone in his corner to give him some guidance. I think he runs out of options in his head.

                    Name me a WW in the world that wouldn't show some flaws in fights V Shane, Margs, and Clottey?

                    Another thing. At least we know how good cotto is vs the elite fighters in his division. That's much better than not knowing. He does have wins over Shane and Clottey. Who else can say that?

                    Agreed 100% about Pac

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by boricuarn
                      I forgot to mention that Cotto should never take Emmanuel Stewart as his trainer, I do not see anything extraordinary in him, before Stewart, I will select Mayweather father which I see him training and giving correct instructions during the fight. I believe like other people mentioned before Cotto should be training in the mountains, the only thing is that Puerto Rico has a lot of high altitude area and also a lot of good trainer, not taking away anything from the Mexican trainer, which I believe are very good too. But one thing, Santiago showed in this fight that he is to green to be training alone.

                      Well, I don't know if there's any trainer in PR that is as good as Nacho to be real here for a second. Also, mountians in Puerto rico aren't the same as Mountains in Mexico City. Mexico City has one of the highest elevations in the world, it's second only to La Paz in Bolivia in the entire American continent as a city.

                      It's how thin the air is there that makes for these fighters to have incredible stamina. Even DLH said he prefers to train in Big Bear in California because of the thin air compaired to Puerto rico.

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