Wladimir Klitschko Says Heavyweight Division is Not Dead

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  • knn
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    #61
    Originally posted by #1Assassin
    u said american fighters ruled simply cuz the USSR fighters didnt compete as pros. i simply stated that the fighters who ruled as pros, frazier, foreman and ali. all ruled as amatures, and beat the USSR fighters in the olympics.
    1) Why should anyone care that a cruiser (Ali, Olympics 1960) won against Zbigniew Pietrzykowski (Poland) by points?
    2) You should rather care that at HEAVYweight (at the same Olympics 1960) east Europe beat USA (Josef Nemec vs Percy Price)

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    • joe strong
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      #62
      Originally posted by PeterTheGreat
      Wlad and vitali should retire, and let the younger guy's reign.
      I'm not a klitschko fan but I respect them.the division needs them but I do think vitali should give up his title so his brother can unify them.wlad is younger & enjoys fighting & training that is why he dominates the division now.he still boxes because he enjoys it & $$$$ isn't an issue unlike American boxers.most are broke & fight to survive to feed their families.most American heavies don't have much outside of boxing so they hang around.just ask Holyfield.400 million & he's broke.

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        #63
        Originally posted by joe strong
        I'm not a klitschko fan but I respect them.the division needs them but I do think vitali should give up his title so his brother can unify them.wlad is younger & enjoys fighting & training that is why he dominates the division now.he still boxes because he enjoys it & $$$$ isn't an issue unlike American boxers.most are broke & fight to survive to feed their families.most American heavies don't have much outside of boxing so they hang around.just ask Holyfield.400 million & he's broke.
        The Klitschkos are smarter with their money than Holyfield and Tyson.

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          #64
          Originally posted by joe strong
          most American heavies don't have much outside of boxing so they hang around.just ask Holyfield.400 million & he's broke.
          I don't want to defend Holyfield here, but it may be that he is broke because of US divorce laws and not because of actual active wrongdoing.

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            #65
            Originally posted by ~Tunney
            No, the childish people in this forum are those like YOU, those come here and ridicule great heavyweights like the Klitschkos every day. Yes, those who attack me every day, here and in the dome, for being a fan of the Klitschkos.

            Those who are heavily influenced by the media are childish. They believe every word that haters like Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas say, and repeat it like little parrots. Such people are naive, like the children who were led by the pied piper.
            i dont ridicule the klitschkos. never. sometimes ppl make jokes about them that are funny. just like any other fighter. i can laugh at a joke about any fighter, weather i like em or not. and i certainly dont dislike eighter one of the klitschkos. i was acctually a big fan of theirs, less now. the main reason ppl like u.

            i dont attack u eighter, i disagree with u. nothing wrong with that. ppl disagree.

            i agree with some things kellerman and atlas say, but i disagree with most. the only commentators i like are roy jones and lennox lewis. probably cuz im a fan of theirs.

            u need to chill. dont take things so seriously.

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            • joe strong
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              #66
              Originally posted by knn
              I don't want to defend Holyfield here, but it may be that he is broke because of US divorce laws and not because of actual active wrongdoing.
              Good point our divorse laws in Canada hugely favor the women even if they are complete failures in life.Holyfield has 9 kids with several women & he use to throw his $$$$ around with failed buisness adventures & Tyson blew his on **** except for 100million legal fees.If you can find it sports illustated printed his spending habits about 5 years ago.he had made almost 350 million in like 5 years.I recall 17 gift cars(150000 each),2million on pigeon feed yes! Pigeon feed for his pigeon farm in arizona.those are just a couple examples.it's a shame he fired Rooney that's where it all started going down hill.no one there to guide him but don king.we all know what happened after.**** don king!

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                #67
                Originally posted by ~Tunney
                Isn't this post pure hate? Toward Wlad and a fan.

                This is the kind of garbage you see here every day.
                tunney you just don't have a clue man.

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                • Johnny Rebel
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by ~Tunney
                  How can anyone not like the boxer in this video?



                  I think they must be either racist against white fighters, or ****sexuals who are only turned on by black dudes - otherwise it doesn't make any sense at all.
                  Awesome video!

                  I don't get all the Wlad is "boring" BS. He has 2 boring fights because he had to be cautious and the other fighter didn't engage him anyway. That shouldn't take away from all of his (Wladimir's) highlight reel KO's...

                  Wlad was just as hated when he was a pure brawler before Manny molded him into a complete and one of the most dominant fighters in history. That version of Wlad was just as hated as he is now and there's NO way any true boxing fan could have found pre-Manny Wladimir, "boring". So his haters hate either because of his race and/or ethnicity. Usually the same people that hate Wlad also hat Hatton, Calzaghe, Vitali and even Mesi when he looked like he had potential, so it was more then just not being American IMO.

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                  • FreshPrince
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                    #69
                    Yea, I going to have to say the heavyweight division is dead. The Klitschkos are nothing special, and everyone else sucks including Haye, Arreola, Valuev, Chagaev, Ruiz....

                    Deontay Wilder and Solis will win belts in a few years and one of them will become undisputed champion. Even then though, the focus is still going to be on 126, 147, and 160-168.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by FreshPrince
                      Yea, I going to have to say the heavyweight division is dead. The Klitschkos are nothing special, and everyone else sucks including Haye, Arreola, Valuev, Chagaev, Ruiz....

                      Deontay Wilder and Solis will win belts in a few years and one of them will become undisputed champion. Even then though, the focus is still going to be on 126, 147, and 160-168.
                      JUST FOR THE FUN.
                      Wad "so called borin" and most P4P underated fighter of our time biggest wins:

                      Over notable fighters,good contenders old or not:

                      Tony Thompson 31-1 KO 11
                      Hasim Rahman 46-6-2 TKO 7
                      Lamon Brewster 33-3 QUITTAGE 6
                      Chris Byrd 1(will beat a prime Tua later)39-1 UD
                      Chris Byrd 2, 39-2-1 TKO 7
                      Davd Bostice 22-1-1 TKO 2
                      Monte Barrett 23-1 TKO 7
                      Jameel McCline 28-2-3 TKO 10
                      François Botha 44-3 TKO 8
                      Ray Mercer 30-4 TKO 6
                      Danell Nicholson 42-4 TKO 4
                      Ray Austin 24-3 TKO 2
                      Charles Shufford 17-1 TKO 6
                      DaVarryl Williamson 22-2 TD 5

                      Over young undefeated fighters:

                      Sultan Ibragimov 22-0-1 UD
                      Calvin Brock 29-0 TKO 7
                      Samuel Peter 24-0 UD
                      Eliseo Castillo 18-0 TKO 4

                      PS:I know some ******s will call these opponents bums.But records talk for themselves...

                      Heavyweight boxin is dead,but people seems to forgot it's because the Klits brothers almost retired everybody in the division.

                      KLITS ****S!!

                      HOW IT IS NOTHING SPECIAL YOU CLOWN??????

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