Mayweather's win over Dela Hoya is underrated

[Sin City]

No, I am making a comment on what you said.

You said they BOTH fought the SAME Oscar, and you are not correct.

they did. lightweight to welterweight is one division right?
welterweight to jr. middleweight is one division too.
that means manny pacquiao had to move up just as much as Floyd did.
Floyd moved up one division, Pacquiao moved up one division.
Only for Pacquiao, De La Hoya was also moving down.. so in actuallity it was TWO divisions from where each fighter was at.
Tell me that isn't the same thing.. It is.
What's the difference between Pacquiao having to move up one division and Mayweather having to move up one? There isn't.
Oscar De La Hoya having to move one down just made things more even.

[Sin City]

Take that Brother off your Avi then,mexican.

not a mexican.. but go get some ***** you self loathing, ugly, emo bastard.
youu couldn't catch flies with that hideous face of yours.
keep hating your white side too.. it ain't gonna go no where.
no matter how much you despise the white man, he will always be in you
some black supremecist you are

[Deja_Vous]

Manny was expecting to be outweighed double digits by Oscar. And seeing as how several people noticed the fresh IV marks in Oscar's arms, we don't know what he really weighed in the ring. He wanted to appear to be lighter than Manny so he had an excuse.

Oscar was not a champ, beating a sliding Mayorga does not make you the champ. Since Floyd is bigger than Manny, and has far more fights above SFW, you cannot automatically assume which was the greater win.

Oscar was more of a Champion than David Diaz.

Q)What did Oscar have when he fought Pacman??

A)Nothing but a name and a fractured eye-socket courtesy of the DREADED Steve Forbes...LOL


The Oscar that fought Floyd at 154 would beat the **** out of Cotto..Tony...and Fanny Pac.

[THE REED]

they did. lightweight to welterweight is one division right?
welterweight to jr. middleweight is one division too.
that means manny pacquiao had to move up just as much as Floyd did.
Floyd moved up one division, Pacquiao moved up one division.
Only for Pacquiao, De La Hoya was also moving down.. so in actuallity it was TWO divisions from where each fighter was at.
Tell me that isn't the same thing.. It is.
What's the difference between Pacquiao having to move up one division and Mayweather having to move up one? There isn't.
Oscar De La Hoya having to move one down just made things more even.

Oscar having to move down a weight class at 35 years old with the frame he has, severely dehydrated him.

Oscar was a MUCH LESS fighter at 147 than he was at 154.

Floyd fought a BETTER Oscar, regardless of who moved up how much and who moved down.

Yes, Pac is smaller than Floyd, but that still doesnt take away from the fact that you said they BOTH fought the same Oscar, and that isn't true.

Oscar was a lesser fighter at 147, period.

[BoxingChaos]

Oscar said he was gonna' KO Floyd and shut his mouth for good...

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT????

OMG! Please anyone who believed that one forgot about Steve Forbes.

Like I said, it was the biggest rip off in boxing history. Trust me, had Floyd just let his hands go, he would have demoralized ODLH. Floyd is good but he is a punk. Did you see what Manny did to ODLH? Floyd could have done the samething. And that goes for Hatton too.

Floyd should really take a close look at B-Hop and learn from what made B-hop great and what made B-hop not so great. The attack dog B-hop wins fights with out arguement, the conservative B-hop either wins or loses fights with criticism. B-Hop in his old age said he would not be the conservative again, I guess he had to reflect on his own career, too bad it took him this long but B-hop is still a very live dog. I don't know if you get what I am trying to say or not.

[Sin City]

Oscar having to move down a weight class at 35 years old with the frame he has, severely dehydrated him.

Oscar was a MUCH LESS fighter at 147 than he was at 154.

Floyd fought a BETTER Oscar, regardless of who moved up how much and who moved down.

Yes, Pac is smaller than Floyd, but that still doesnt take away from the fact that you said they BOTH fought the same Oscar, and that isn't true.

Oscar was a lesser fighter at 147, period.

yeah Oscar was dehydrated but this is still a fighter who only a year ago was fighting a super featherweight. to me the dehydration only made the tables even.
I cant believe you trying to say a guy who was at super featherweight a year ago moves up to welter and beats a jr middleweight isn't a bigger accomplishment then a guy moving up one weight division.

Everyone including myself thought the weight disparity was gonna be too much for Pacquiao, and YES De La Hoya was weight drained but despite that there is no reason why he should have lost. He was the MUCH bigger man.

[warp1432]

To me, the Oscar De La Hoya was a better fighter in 2007 then he was in 2008. Oscar looked sharp as hell against Mayorga and still looked sharp in 2007. His speed looked better in flurries, the jab seemed sharper, and he just seemed like a better fighter.

Against Forbes, you could really tell he was declining. Not to the point where I thought he would lose to Manny (the weight was a huge factor. I don't care if it was to "even" the Pacquiao fight out, Oscar was drained as hell. Even Roach admitted it), but you could tell even the flurries and the jabs he threw against Forbes weren't as fluid nor seemed to have the steam on them. I don't think there was much of a slide from 2006 to 2007 as there was from 2007 to 2008. Time caught up with him.

Pacquiao's performance against DLH was better imo because he showed he could compete against any top WW imo. He might have not had a top one in there, but he showed blistering speed, a dominant right hand, and even better defense then he had before. So Mayweather beat a better DLH, but Pacquiao looked more impressive doing so.

As for this topic, I think it is an underrated win, but not a fantastic win. Mayweather did what he had to do to win. It was a good win and that past his prime Oscar still gives fighters a lot of problems. It was a pretty good win for Mayweather, but I think his wins over Castillo, Corrales, and Hatton are better.

[THE REED]

yeah Oscar was dehydrated but this is still a fighter who only a year ago was fighting a super featherweight. to me the dehydration only made the tables even.
I cant believe you trying to say a guy who was at super featherweight a year ago moves up to welter and beats a jr middleweight isn't a bigger accomplishment then a guy moving up one weight division.

Everyone including myself thought the weight disparity was gonna be too much for Pacquiao, and YES De La Hoya was weight drained but despite that there is no reason why he should have lost. He was the MUCH bigger man.

That's the thing SIN... I didn't say that.

I am not comparing the two wins.

I specifically stated, that I disagree with your statement, "They both fought the same Oscar".


They didn't.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oscar having to move down a weight class at 35 years old with the frame he has, severely dehydrated him.

Oscar was a MUCH LESS fighter at 147 than he was at 154.

Floyd fought a BETTER Oscar, regardless of who moved up how much and who moved down.

Yes, Pac is smaller than Floyd, but that still doesnt take away from the fact that you said they BOTH fought the same Oscar, and that isn't true.

Oscar was a lesser fighter at 147, period.

I don't know, Oscar looked pretty good to me at 150 against Forbes, which was what? 6 months earlier. That's 3 more pounds. If he would've melted to 147, and regained to about 160, there'd have been no problem. He tried coming in light, that's not Pac's fault. You still have Pac jumping two divisions to fight him after just jumping one division. 3 divisions in less than a year to fight Oscar. Also Floyd was the fav against DLH, while Pac was a dog. Not quite as cut and dry as some try to make it out which was the bigger accomplishment.

[Deja_Vous]

not a mexican.. but go get some ***** you self loathing, ugly, emo bastard.
youu couldn't catch flies with that hideous face of yours.
keep hating your white side too.. it ain't gonna go no where.
no matter how much you despise the white man, he will always be in you
some black supremecist you are

Shut up you inbred Ferris Wheel attendant..lol

Your broke ass ain't seen a ***** since Buddy McGirt was Champ.


Easy as it is to **** WW..We'll always be inside you too hillbilly..

I know you don't want to go there.