LOl at Maywether and possibly Manny being this huge draw

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Mayweather vs Cotto would do 800K I believe. Mayweather doesn't know what he is talking about, I still want Cotto out of Top Rank, he'll do alot better. Arum didn't do such a good job with Mayweather, Mayweather couldn't even sell out in his own home town, he became alot more sucessful after his split. I just think Cotto should buy out of his contract, Arum is bad people as we've seen.

Na if FLoyds beats JMM desicive ly and Cottto do teh same with Clottey that fight, ends up making 1.1 mill buys, if after their respective fights, FLoyd beats Msoleya nd Cotto beats Pac, this fight goes trhough the roof. I say 2mill buys!!!!!!

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

thats not an insult..floyd pre oscar was almost the face of boxing....floyd was p4p#1 and moving to his 5th division..he was a pretty big name

Im not saying it was!!!!!!!!

[Doctor_Tenma]

yeah it would do that much now, but not back in 2007!!! After the july 18th we'll see how things play out!

Mayweather vs Cotto can happen, I hope.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Na if FLoyds beats JMM desicive ly and Cottto do teh same with Clottey that fight, ends up making 1.1 mill buys, if after their respective fights, FLoyd beats Msoleya nd Cotto beats Pac, this fight goes trhough the roof. I say 2mill buys!!!!!!

We'll have to see what happens after JMM. If Mayweather vs Pacquiao don't fall threw, we'll see Mayweather vs Shane.

[Pullcounter]

cotto/margo played off the PR-Mexico rivalry tho.

margo sold out staples cause he was riding high on the cotto quittage and mosley is a great opponent that always delivers action fights.

so... yeah it is what it is.

you also have to consider that dlh only fights guys that are draws themselves. if cotto was a draw that was too irrestible to deny, then don't you think dlh would've fought cotto instead of pbf and pac?

that said, cotto is a probably tougher opponent than pbf and pac, as cotto is a vicious body puncher and likely hits harder than both pbf and pac.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

So we are almost on the same page here with some minor differences. Thanks guys for having a civil disccusion on the subject, with nobody betting all sentive and ******.

Thanks again for a decent thread without Flaming.

Except for the Idiot I wont mention!!!!, LMAO jajajaj


Anyways My point got through and I totally understanded yours!!!!!!!!

[larry x]

imma put it like this..floyd-cotto,and floyd- pacman are the 2 biggest fights that can be made in boxing right now period

[jrv1932]

Thats asinine. How I will give them Credit for becoming a huge star after figgting DLH. DLH made them stars, thats My hole Point. Take DLHS fight away and they dont sell More than Cotto. Ofcourse they will now if tehy fight each other!!!!!!

You cant take away from the fact that Oscar had BY FAR his biggest fight against Floyd. Floyd made himself a star with a great record and trash talking Oscar the way he did. After Oscar he became and has MAINTAINED SUPERSTARDOM. I don't think Cotto has the personality to do that, and I'm a big Cotto fan. He's a lot like Mosley, but Cotto has a little edge because of his great PR loyal fan base. That being said if May fights JMM and Pac and Cotto beats Clottey SSM better step up and make that rematch or just get out of the picture period. Then all these guys will be WAY bigger stars and Cotto if he wins would set up a HUGE fight against May or Pac. That, to me, is the ideal scenario. And if Cotto wins he will have his chance to be in the shoes of those two.

[El Jesus]

And I totally agree. But Why this so call Cotto aint a big enough draw, when he clearly had more PPV buys than this 2. Not mentioning DLH or Hatton!!!!!!!!

One thing about floyd is that he didint have a huge marketing machine based around centering his sub ethnic group as a fanbase and promoting him to no end as the next big thing out of his country. It took floyd forever to gain that noteriety, even throwing himself into the fire taking on on matches people felt he wasnt ready for, considering he won a LEGIT title against a LEGIT titleholder by 1998 and his career started shortly after 96, he should have been the greatest thing ever coming out of the united states, but he didint have that luxury.

With pac, he had to work his ass off to become the star he is today, again, throwing himself in with guys who were the most skilled in his division, while i have reservations about the 3rd morales and 2nd barrera fight, both of them he took on and won, without some huge marketing machine grooming him to be a star since day one.

Mayweather and Pac had a harder road to their success than cotto. If mayweather had a microscope on him, and had this huge sub ethnic fanbase backing him like cotto does from basically day one, then both him and pac would have been huge within the first few years of their career.

When you look at cottos ppv numbers against Malignaggi, Judah, etc, and look at floyds ppv numbers against Judah, Baldomir, his first 2 mind you, where do they stand? Those were all fights where cotto was the "star" attraction, not to mention cotto was on PPV alot quicker than mayweather was.


Also, cotto has next to ZERO charisma, people arent really drawn to him outside of his puerto rican bretheren. There is a reason why they keep him at MSG.

[jrv1932]

you also have to consider that dlh only fights guys that are draws themselves. if cotto was a draw that was too irrestible to deny, then don't you think dlh would've fought cotto instead of pbf and pac?

that said, cotto is a probably tougher opponent than pbf and pac, as cotto is a vicious body puncher and likely hits harder than both pbf and pac.

Don't forget that DLH Cotto was almost a sure thing if Cotto got past Marg. DLH said he wanted the winner, assuming of course it was gonna be Cotto, then backed off after Marg won. Cotto would have had that same chance as May and Pac