Armstrong vs. Pacquiao: Catchweights Make Alltime P4P Comparisons a Moot Point

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  • RisAri0
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    #11
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    True but we're talking about IF's. Pac is around now, Robinson then. So its ridiculous to put Pac up there with those guys...
    who's to say tho?..no really.. I respect and praise those that came before the elite we have now... but who's to say we can't put Pacquiao up there with the legends of past? has the bar been raised up that high?...just wondering..
    Last edited by RisAri0; 06-10-2009, 01:52 AM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by horge
      Hank's record shades Manny 24/7 all year long.

      No slam on Pacquiao's abilities. It's just that boxing today is
      so much more a money-sport, and the sanctioning bodies have
      totally lost control of it: the sheer number of them is evidence
      of their failure.

      The proliferation of sanctioning bodies is one thing, and so is
      the increase in number of weight classes, running parallel to
      an apparent increase in the number of active professional boxers.

      I still dig Manny because for a good while, he was taking on
      everyone worth taking on, and winning. These past two years
      have been about cashing in, or rather, cashing out.

      h.
      His fights the past 2 years have been with Marquez, Diaz, Delahoya, and Hatton.

      He didnt make anything from the Diaz fight. Did you really think the delahoya and hatton fights were unworthy fights and solely about cashing out before you saw the outcome?

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        #13
        Originally posted by RisAri0
        who says tho?..no really.. I respect and praise those that came before the greats we have now... but who's to say we can't put Pacquiao up there with the legends of past? has the bar been raised up that high?...just wondering..
        i see what your saying. sometime fighters of the past have been put in a pedastel where a mere comparison with todays fighters is taken as an insult, or as a lack of knowledge in the sport and its history.

        this is unfair for todays great fighters. the situation is different then and now. its not their fault there are twice as many weight classes now or a fighter normally fight twice a year.

        i always laugh at morons who feel "insulted" when pacquiao's accomplishment is compared to armstrong's. it is the closest we can get folks.

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          #14
          Originally posted by RisAri0
          who's to say tho?..no really.. I respect and praise those that came before the elite we have now... but who's to say we can't put Pacquiao up there with the legends of past? has the bar been raised up that high?...just wondering..
          Its hard to put some1 up there against some1 who has 100 wins
          Pac's resume doesn't look all that good compared to some of those guys
          I wouldn't put Pac's resume up there wit fighters of the 80's let alone way back then...

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            #15
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            Its hard to put some1 up there against some1 who has 100 wins
            Pac's resume doesn't look all that good compared to some of those guys
            I wouldn't put Pac's resume up there wit fighters of the 80's let alone way back then...
            Alot of those guys on those 100+ wins are the modern day equivalent of sparring partners and simply there to get paid taking a beating and keep the fighter sharp.

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              #16
              126 through 147. Damn, I never knew that.

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                #17
                Originally posted by aether
                i see what your saying. sometime fighters of the past have been put in a pedastel where a mere comparison with todays fighters is taken as an insult, or as a lack of knowledge in the sport and its history.

                this is unfair for todays great fighters. the situation is different then and now. its not their fault there are twice as many weight classes now or a fighter normally fight twice a year.

                i always laugh at morons who feel "insulted" when pacquiao's accomplishment is compared to armstrong's. it is the closest we can get folks.
                Mayweather makes Manny his little Filipino hooker. Mayweather is twice the Armstrong Manny can ever be.

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                • aether
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Marijuana
                  Mayweather makes Manny his little Filipino hooker. Mayweather is twice the Armstrong Manny can ever be.
                  and i mentioned floyd where?

                  nways thanks for the red k. i know that i made a point because of that.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Marijuana
                    Mayweather makes Manny his little Filipino hooker. Mayweather is twice the Armstrong Manny can ever be.
                    no.......

                    suck **** floyd boy

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by aether
                      no.......

                      suck **** floyd boy
                      LOL. Was my post so great that you had to reply to it twice?

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