Better resume? Calzaghe or Marquez?

[Dan...]

Just because he beat a slow one dimensional fighter? Hopkins doesn't throw punches like he used to.

Did I say he beat the best version of Hopkins?

What I am saying is that win deserves credit. Hopkins is clearly still one hell of a fighter and Calzaghe deserves some significant credit for beating him.

[Frank Martin]

Marquez, no question. Calzaghe only fought taxi drivers and old men. Marquez fought the best and i'll give his loss a props.

[Silkstone]

I picked too close to call. I must say, however, despite being a huge Calzaghe fan but Marquez is a bloody LEGEND and Joe's most notable fights were Eubank and then his last four, this was a very thought provoking post... I actually had to think for a few minutes before deciding. TS gets green K for this. Nice one, mate.

[them_apples]

Did I say he beat the best version of Hopkins?

What I am saying is that win deserves credit. Hopkins is clearly still one hell of a fighter and Calzaghe deserves some significant credit for beating him.

yea but its how he beat him, Hopkins is older now and has to really watch his fuel in the tank, Calzaghe beat him by just looking more active to the judges.

[Maestro USA]

Marquez beat Pacquiao twice.

Hopkins beat Calzaghe.

Easily Marquez.

[Deja_Vous]

Calzaghe has one of the best.

Cant do better than Bhop and Roy Jones.

STFU

I guess Willie Wise gets credit for beating Chavez.

[Deja_Vous]

What if Joe didn't want to knock him out, purely out of respect? Ever consider this?

Joe didn't show any respect to Jones...he was SHOWBOATING the guy.

If Sloppy COULD have stopped Jones he surely WOULD have.

Joe has never had respect for the sport.

That's why he DUCKED the LOSER of an elimination bout.

[daggum]

yea but its how he beat him, Hopkins is older now and has to really watch his fuel in the tank, Calzaghe beat him by just looking more active to the judges.

tricking the judges into thinking you are landing punches is a shameful way of fighting. if the judges had good eyesight hopkins would have won that fight easily based on clean punching and making calzaghe look like the amateur fool he is.

[Deja_Vous]

tricking the judges into thinking you are landing punches is a shameful way of fighting. if the judges had good eyesight hopkins would have won that fight easily based on clean punching and making calzaghe look like the amateur fool he is.

Hopkins' mouth cost him that fight.

"I'll never let a white boy beat me"

[Dan...]

yea but its how he beat him, Hopkins is older now and has to really watch his fuel in the tank, Calzaghe beat him by just looking more active to the judges.

But really apples does it matter all that much?

The bottom line is he won the fight. It was one of the worst to watch I have ever seen but he won it. I'm not trying to say that Hopkins was as good when he fought Joe as he was when he fought Tito or before that, but he is still one hell of a fighter. Pavlik may be one-dimensional but Hopkins still showed that he is a p4p fighter right there. You can hate Calzaghe all you want, but to deny that his win over Bernard is anything but a very impressive accompishment is just a bit ridiculous in my view.