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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostAnd before you discredit Ricky Hatton at 147......atleast he won a title (NOT VACANT) in the division unlike Miguel Cotto.
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Originally posted by Iceta View PostWhat it do Concrete? You make a good point about Cotto squattin on vacated titles. And why are cats bringing Mayweather in this thread. I'll admit that I'm a Floyd detractor too, but this story is about the Clottey-Cotto fight. Who you rootin for? I know you're probably going for Clottey cause you can't stand the Cotto Stans. I'd like Clottey to pull off the victory, but he ain't getting the decision at Madison Square Garden. He'll have to knock Cotto out to beat him.
towards Clottey. May give Cotto too much problems
especially if Clottey can take his punch away from him.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI think what he meant is that Cotto never beat
them for any belts. All of his titles were won
Vacantly.
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Originally posted by Concrete Punch View Postso what about winning nothing but vacant belts and not one time beating a champion! Cotto has yet to defeat a champion. All his championship wins were for vacant belts. So does that deserve credit in your eyes? Is fighting in your word a shot gatti while he is the reigning 140lbs wbc champion worse then fighting michael jennings for the wbo?
But you can't tell me that Beating:
Gatti - SHOT TO HELL!
Baldomir - Dead ass SLOW!..
De la Hoya - Shot but credit to it was at 154..but it was SD!..
is more impressive than beating
Kelson Pinto - Undefeated Power Puncher
Carlos Quintana - Undefeated slick and fast boxer and his FIRST at 147!.
Michael Jennings- 32-1..WEAK!..but Cotto made ALL of these LOOK EASY!...
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Now I'm not saying that Cotto fought THE GREATEST for his belts!..but they were in much better positions then when Mayweather fought those guys!..100%!!..
Who cares if he hasn't beat a champ for his belt?..Every time he has a chance to unify the opposition gets stripped!!...and the main chance he had was to fight Paul Williams..and I'm sorry but everyone knows that this is business more than glory for these guys..and coming off a Brutal 11 rd fight/TKO against Margarito..a comeback fight with Williams would be IDIOTIC!..
Now Cotto has backed down from NOBODY!..and has fought in his last 5 fights (including Clottey) 3 very avoided fighters in Margarito, Mosley, and Clottey!!..so you tellin me he doesn't deserve a Jennings or a Gomez in between??..Come on man!..open your eyes EVERYONE!..
Cotto wants the BEST fights even if they aren't the BIGGEST!..who would have thought Clottey-Cotto would be this big a DRAW?!..NOBODY!..and of course he does that in NY..who sells out in places other than their backyard?!..Mayweather-Vegas (with the help of GREAT drawing opposition)..DLH-Vegas/Cali..Mosley-Cali..Margarito- Cali etc..
Let's stop being biased ALL the time...and be realistic..Cotto has shown MUCH more Balls than Mayweather!..MUCH MORE!..don't let Mayweather's "achievements" fool you!..He's coming back to fight a LW and making him go up to 144!!..that should show you..that he won't fight a LEGIT Welterweight but won't go down to ATLEAST 140!..PATHETIC!..
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Originally posted by Concrete Punch View Postso what about winning nothing but vacant belts and not one time beating a champion! Cotto has yet to defeat a champion. All his championship wins were for vacant belts. So does that deserve credit in your eyes? Is fighting in your word a shot gatti while he is the reigning 140lbs wbc champion worse then fighting michael jennings for the wbo?
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Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::. View PostLook man..I know we've had some history..but that's dead..nothing but respect..
But you can't tell me that Beating:
Gatti - SHOT TO HELL!
Baldomir - Dead ass SLOW!..
De la Hoya - Shot but credit to it was at 154..but it was SD!..
is more impressive than beating
Kelson Pinto - Undefeated Power Puncher
Carlos Quintana - Undefeated slick and fast boxer and his FIRST at 147!.
Michael Jennings- 32-1..WEAK!..but Cotto made ALL of these LOOK EASY!...
???????????
Now I'm not saying that Cotto fought THE GREATEST for his belts!..but they were in much better positions then when Mayweather fought those guys!..100%!!..
Who cares if he hasn't beat a champ for his belt?..Every time he has a chance to unify the opposition gets stripped!!...and the main chance he had was to fight Paul Williams..and I'm sorry but everyone knows that this is business more than glory for these guys..and coming off a Brutal 11 rd fight/TKO against Margarito..a comeback fight with Williams would be IDIOTIC!..
Now Cotto has backed down from NOBODY!..and has fought in his last 5 fights (including Clottey) 3 very avoided fighters in Margarito, Mosley, and Clottey!!..so you tellin me he doesn't deserve a Jennings or a Gomez in between??..Come on man!..open your eyes EVERYONE!..
Cotto wants the BEST fights even if they aren't the BIGGEST!..who would have thought Clottey-Cotto would be this big a DRAW?!..NOBODY!..and of course he does that in NY..who sells out in places other than their backyard?!..Mayweather-Vegas (with the help of GREAT drawing opposition)..DLH-Vegas/Cali..Mosley-Cali..Margarito- Cali etc..
Let's stop being biased ALL the time...and be realistic..Cotto has shown MUCH more Balls than Mayweather!..MUCH MORE!..don't let Mayweather's "achievements" fool you!..He's coming back to fight a LW and making him go up to 144!!..that should show you..that he won't fight a LEGIT Welterweight but won't go down to ATLEAST 140!..PATHETIC!..
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Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::. View PostLook man..I know we've had some history..but that's dead..nothing but respect..
But you can't tell me that Beating:
Gatti - SHOT TO HELL!
Baldomir - Dead ass SLOW!..
De la Hoya - Shot but credit to it was at 154..but it was SD!..
is more impressive than beating
Kelson Pinto - Undefeated Power Puncher
Carlos Quintana - Undefeated slick and fast boxer and his FIRST at 147!.
Michael Jennings- 32-1..WEAK!..but Cotto made ALL of these LOOK EASY!...
???????????
Now I'm not saying that Cotto fought THE GREATEST for his belts!..but they were in much better positions then when Mayweather fought those guys!..100%!!..
Who cares if he hasn't beat a champ for his belt?..Every time he has a chance to unify the opposition gets stripped!!...and the main chance he had was to fight Paul Williams..and I'm sorry but everyone knows that this is business more than glory for these guys..and coming off a Brutal 11 rd fight/TKO against Margarito..a comeback fight with Williams would be IDIOTIC!..
Now Cotto has backed down from NOBODY!..and has fought in his last 5 fights (including Clottey) 3 very avoided fighters in Margarito, Mosley, and Clottey!!..so you tellin me he doesn't deserve a Jennings or a Gomez in between??..Come on man!..open your eyes EVERYONE!..
Cotto wants the BEST fights even if they aren't the BIGGEST!..who would have thought Clottey-Cotto would be this big a DRAW?!..NOBODY!..and of course he does that in NY..who sells out in places other than their backyard?!..Mayweather-Vegas (with the help of GREAT drawing opposition)..DLH-Vegas/Cali..Mosley-Cali..Margarito- Cali etc..
Let's stop being biased ALL the time...and be realistic..Cotto has shown MUCH more Balls than Mayweather!..MUCH MORE!..don't let Mayweather's "achievements" fool you!..He's coming back to fight a LW and making him go up to 144!!..that should show you..that he won't fight a LEGIT Welterweight but won't go down to ATLEAST 140!..PATHETIC!..
Juan Manuel Marquez.
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