Cotto Refuses To Fight Pacquiao Below 145-Pounds

[lil chico 112]

pac should just retire then he fought oscar 147 but wont fight a smaller guy in cotto at 147 cuz hes in his prime thats not greatness, pac retire or go to 135 cant severly handicap people and say he beat the best as if they werent handicapped, lets not kid ourselves, if not welterweights then theres nothing left for pac .

also pac said it was a one time deal. 147 for oscar and then go back down in weight. the man started his career at 106. mosley started his at 35 and cotto at 40. these men are naturally bigger. there is nothing left for pac accept floyd jr. cotto is not in his prime anymore. he was damaged by marga. and will be in a dog fight against clottey. which i think he might lose. so lets see after that fight and the floyd jr fight.

[rob6465]

Smart, i don't think cotto win at less than 146, but at 146-147 I think he can beat pacman. Smart on cotto's decision.

[Pullcounter]

Man some of these comments about weight are too funny!

This is what's going to happen.

Cotto will fight Clottey and look like a beast. Roach and Pac will no way in hell let Cotto come in the ring that big/strong. They will want him less than 100%. Yet some PEOPLE are calling this FAIR????? IDIOTS I tell ya! Cotto will have no part in coming in the ring weight drained, in which Pac and Roach will want him at if they have any chance at TRYING to even think in ANY WAY to WIN the fight. FAIR is letting BOTH guys fight at 100%. If Cotto is too big and Pac is too small than **** IT! It dont need to happen......

that's what I've been trying to say all along. the fight don't need to happen but people keep wanting to talk about a fight that shouldn't be happening.

Cotto is BEAST. Roach and Pac BOTH know this. The fight wont happen if Cotto cant weigh 145-147 the day before the fight. Which means fight night Cotto will be an even BIGGER ****ING BEAST compared to the great little man PAC. He will DESTROY Pac if he comes in 100% AKA fighting at 150+ fight night. Fair is BOTH guys fighting 100%. If you think that is UNFAIR then you shouldnt be promoting the fight! To make it clear I am not for Mayweather JMM either......

exactly, cotto is too big for pac. for the fight to be fair, cotto must sacrifice for the catchweight, he can still hydrate himself up to MW on fight night. if he don't wanna do that then walk and fight mosley.

Pac and Roach should be looking at PBF's left overs (again) JMM in a trilogoy.

lols... jmm is pac's left-overs

At least get it out of the way so people stop talking about it.
Mayweather needs to STOP with Pac (right now) and go after Cotto and/or Mosley..... FIRST! He's not "ducking" he's "MONEY" Mayweather he's doing what he's ALWAYS done. Looking for the money. Well I think Cotto and Mosley would bring him a pay day. Leave it to HBO to pay him his cash!

yes, pbf (a WW) should fight Cotto and Mosley (WWs).

All this talk about Pac....WTF... Pac is great but when Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, or even Pwill is talked about, Pac shouldn't EVEN be in the same sentence.

exactly!!! mofos think pac is a bonafide WW!!! pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh.

IF YOU THINK HE SHOULD BE.... Then you must admit Pac should fight at 145+...... until then leave LITTLE MAN out. He dont need them and they dont need him. Its only MONEY that's making sense here and "for the love of money is the root of all evil".

exactly!!! if they wanna fight the little man they gotta make 142 lbs, or walk.

These damn promoters want Pac because like Mayweather he's a money train (right now).... EVERYONE wants to jump a board.......

All this catchweight bull**** is getting really old though......

What should happen later this year: (assuming PBF beats JMM)
Mayweather VS the winner of Cotto VS Mosley II
Pac VS JMM III

and to throw it out there
Dawson VS Johnson II and/or Hopkins

agree on all points

Never said Cotto/Mosley would get credit either. These fights don't make sense to me at all, but if they were to happen I would want them at a reasonable weight and 145 is reasonable for both parties.

145 is not reasonable. Cotto and Mosley are MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. Cotto and Mosley must sacrifice on the catchweight to make the fight fair.

Pac's legacy of skipping weights is set in stone, yes. Who are his best wins though? Barrera 1, a controversial win over JMM that many feel JMM won, and possibly Hatton for the manner of victory. The names on paper sound great, but in reality the wins themselves are not.

- 1 of 2 to have 6 titles in 6 different divisions
- only person to have 4 lineal titles
- beat morales 3x
- beat jmm 2x
- beat mab 2x
- only person to KO morales
- only person to knockdown jmm 4x
- 1 of 2 to stop mab
- 1 of 2 to stop DLH
- 1 of 2 to stop Hatton
- beat DLH worst than Floyd
- KOed Hatton faster than Floyd
- fought from 106 lbs all the way to 147 (actually 142) lbs

If Pac beats Cotto or Mosely at 145, though, now that would be impressive and really cement his legacy for me.

pac's legacy is already impressive and cemented. wins over Cotto and Mosley would just be icing on the cake and aren't necessary.

pac should just retire then he fought oscar 147 but wont fight a smaller guy in cotto at 147 cuz hes in his prime

roach said the fight with dlh at 147 lbs was a one time deal

thats not greatness, pac retire or go to 135 cant severly handicap people and say he beat the best as if they werent handicapped, lets not kid ourselves,

what's also not greatness is for cotto (a MW on fight night) to call out pac (a WW on fight night) without sacrificing some weight on the official scales to level the playing field.

if not welterweights then theres nothing left for pac .

roach said 2 fights then pac retires. there's nothing left for him to do.

Ok people lets stick to the facts:

On 06/28/2008 Pacman fought David Diaz at 135lb
On 12/06/2008 (not even six months later) Pacman agreed to fight De La Hoya at a limit 147 lbs.

On 05/02/2009 Pacman fights Hatton at a wieght limit of 140 lbs.

Question:

If on a 6 month period he accepted to fight a guy that has fought in 160 lbs(De La Hoya) in a weight limit 147 lbs match, while coming himself from a 135 lbs match (moving up 2 weight classes), Why can he not fight in that same weight limit of 147 (actually Cotto said 145) in the same 6 month period, while only needing to move up 1 weight class (or as Cotto has agreed 5 lbs more)?????

- roach said 147 lbs for dlh was a one time deal

- pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto weighed 142 lbs?

- pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto weighed 138 lbs.

- pac is too small for cotto and if cotto wants the fight he must agree to 142 to level the playing field.

- roach doesn't even want pac campaigning at WW.

Bottom line Pacquiao accepted to Fight an old De La Hoya at a weight limit of 147 coming from 135 lbs limit fight But wont fight Cotto at 145 limit coming from 140 lbs limit fight. Doesn't make sense and has no excuses.

Bottomline 147 lbs was a catchweight for DLH to come down one division to and Pac to come up 2 divisions for. if cotto wanna fight pac he's gonna have to come down to an agreeable catchweight.

I Beleive it is Pacquiao who actually doesn't want the fight.

Roach is willing to make the fight if the playing field is level.

[lil chico 112]

I give Miguel Cotto a lot of credit for standing firm on his principles
and not compromising his health to make Manny Pacquiao look
great. If Freddie Roach really wants the Welter Weights then
Manny should be fighting them at their natural weight. If Manny
can't hang with the big boys then he should just stick to his
weight division.

hang with the big boys? he been hanging with the big boys since he moved up to 130

[rob6465]

Cotto is smart, I wouldn't want any part of Manny right now either. Manny IMO would destroy Cotto, his speed is something I think only someone like Mayweather and JMM can deal with right now.

Question...lol..what is margarito....lol up to lately...lol?

[GRUSTLER]

hang with the big boys? he been hanging with the big boys since he moved up to 130

If that's the case how come he can't fight none
of the big Welters at 147? Freddie Roach started
this catch weight bull**** to give Manny the advantages.
Manny gets full credit for serving a bigger Ricky Hatton
but he should stay at 140 if he can't totally commit to 147.

[Pullcounter]

I give Miguel Cotto a lot of credit for standing firm on his principles
and not compromising his health to make Manny Pacquiao look
great. If Freddie Roach really wants the Welter Weights then
Manny should be fighting them at their natural weight. If Manny
can't hang with the big boys then he should just stick to his
weight division.

Roach doesn't even want pac campaignig at WW... where do people get this impression from????

Smart, i don't think cotto win at less than 146, but at 146-147 I think he can beat pacman. Smart on cotto's decision.

yep, cotto should fight mosley

Then we'd basically be taking from Pacs merits as a champion , i think Pac has a possibility of beating Cotto dont get me wrong im a die hard Cotto fan but im realistic . So when u say its not fair and when any body say's it it just adds to Pacs legacy but when the excuses start flying its hard to to elevate him and consider him in the P4P list of ATG's!

pac's merits and legacy is secure. not fighting cotto or fighting cotto at a catchweight doesn't have any effect at all.

But also it's not fair for Cotto fighting at 142 when he was having a lot of problem when he was there, that't why he move up. But Pac had a great performance with a great fighter like Oscar in 147, why he don't want to try again?

because roach himself said pac fighting dlh at 147 was a one time deal. what about that don't people understand. roach has no intention of letting pac campaign as a WW.

Oh, I know, Roach knew that oscar would have problem going down and he wants to do the same with Cotto. So they shouldn't not fight at all,

exactly if cotto don't wanna fight at a catchweight then walk and fight cotto

Pac should fight Marquez win or lose in his next fight, those 2 fights were really close and i think Marquez won at least one.

pac beat jmm 2x.

Co-sign ! Pacs camp doesnt want the fight , Roach just wants to manipulate the weight process and make easy fights for Manny.

no, roach is protecting his boxer who is a WW on fight night against cotto who is a MW on fight night. I think that's fair, smart, and the right thing to do.

[m00ks]

That's fine and it was expected. Cotto is WAY to big for Pacquiao anyweyz. Anyone who thinks it's a fair fight is sorely mistaken. Pac is a small jr WW and everyone wants to pit him against a bull at 147 who weighs a middleweight by fightnight. You're talking about a 10-13 pound advantage. Only an idiot won't see the obvious disparity.

[jose1418]

Question guys, lets forget about money just the match up:
which fight is more senseless, Cotto Pac or Mayweather JMM?
IMO both.

[Pullcounter]

If that's the case how come he can't fight none
of the big Welters at 147?

roach said the fight w/ dlh at 147 was a one time deal; roach has no intention for pac to campaign at WW. what about this is confusing for you?

Freddie Roach started this catch weight bull**** to give Manny the advantages.

roach is trying to protect his boxer who is a WW on fight night against cotto and mosley who are MW on fight night.

Manny gets full credit for serving a bigger Ricky Hatton but he should stay at 140 if he can't totally commit to 147.

that's what roach wants, he doesn't want pac to campaign at 147 lbs.