The definitive poll: Who's higher on the ATG list--Calzaghe or Hopkins?

[SHB]

Thats because you cant tell the difference between a slick boxer and a Jazz Bassist.
Resume is one thing, but prime for prime BHop is that much farther ahead of Calzaghe.
This conversation is really ridiculous. The only reasoning someone would have for claiming Calzaghe was better in his prime is that he always looked good on account of fighting **** opponents.

Take Trinidad out (and you can argue about his effectiveness at MW anyway) and Hopkins' resume at MW is roughly the same as Calzaghes at SMW.

Feel free to argue that Hopkins beats Calzaghe - it's certainly a makeable argument - but you can certainly argue it the other way. Calzaghe's capable of being a slick boxer when he wants to be - it's how he beat Kessler in the end and Lacy of course. He also used to be capable of blitzing his opponents until the hands finally gave up - see the Sheika, Mitchell and yes even the undefeated at the time Veit.

[Patheticfraud?]

yeah i dont think zaghe withdrew he just postponed the fight - johnson thought 'sod that' i need a fight and both went their seperate ways.

no ducking involved

Yeah right, Tell that to Glen Johnson.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah right, Tell that to Glen Johnson.

Using your logic, I still dont understand how Calzaghe ducking Johnson excuses Hopkins from ducking Calzaghe........

[hookoutofhell]

Uh, De La Hoya was in fact a big Welterweight. He was also rated #1 JMW in the world prior to "losing" to Mosley. Who are these top 5 Middleweights that existed at the time that would have beat him? Name them please.

true actually my bad - DLH was proven at WW and LMW i dont know what i was thinking when i typed that.

but he did lose to sturm - no doubt about it and like i said had no buisness being up at MW.

iv no idea who was in the MW's at the time but if johnson was he would have beat DLh handily.

p.s. SHB im interested in your opinion who do you think had the more impressive career hopkins at MW hopkins or calzaghe at SMW, personally i rate it more or less the same with a slight edge to zaghe however maybe my bias as a zaghe fan is coming out.

where i do think that zaghe has a clear edge is that he beat the up-and-comer and hopkins failed...twice.

[Patheticfraud?]

Using your logic, I still dont understand how Calzaghe ducking Johnson excuses Hopkins from ducking Calzaghe........

Hopkins never ducked that bum in my opinion. In my opinion Calslappy ducked him and everybody else (his pathetic excuse for a resume proves it) and that so called agreement is just more Calslappy/frank warren lies and propaganda BS. End of story.

[Patheticfraud?]

Calsassy really fought some **** opposition pretty much exclusively huh?

[SHB]

Hopkins never ducked that bum in my opinion. In my opinion Calslappy ducked him and everybody else (his pathetic excuse for a resume proves it) and that so called agreement is just more Calslappy/frank warren lies and propaganda BS. End of story.

Are you prepared to accept the word of the CEO of Showtime? Because he confirmed all this.

No? Thought not. That question mark at the end of your username is pretty superfluous.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Hopkins never ducked that bum in my opinion. In my opinion Calslappy ducked him and everybody else (his pathetic excuse for a resume proves it) and that so called agreement is just more Calslappy/frank warren lies and propaganda BS. End of story.

Sigh......

[hookoutofhell]

Hopkins never ducked that bum in my opinion. In my opinion Calslappy ducked him and everybody else (his pathetic excuse for a resume proves it) and that so called agreement is just more Calslappy/frank warren lies and propaganda BS. End of story.

maaaan, you're still here? i stopped taking notice of your comments a long time ago, go home kid its past your bed time

[Patheticfraud?]

Are you prepared to accept the word of the CEO of Showtime? Because he confirmed all this.

No? Thought not. That question mark at the end of your username is pretty superfluous.

You mean the ceo who is Frank Warrens American Representative in negotiations Jay Larkin?