The definitive poll: Who's higher on the ATG list--Calzaghe or Hopkins?

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  • Mary Jane
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    #1

    The definitive poll: Who's higher on the ATG list--Calzaghe or Hopkins?

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    Calzaghe
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  • Klitschko2011
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    #2
    Calzaghe is the superior fighter, he clearly beat Hopkins

    Hopkins has the better resume

    skills vs resume

    I'm going with skills, past prime Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins and **** ****d him.

    Calzaghe >>> Hopkins
    Last edited by Klitschko2011; 05-16-2009, 05:54 AM.

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    • Chr0nic
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      #3
      calzaghe is a world beater, he beat a miniture mike tyson in jeff lacy and pummelled manfredo...i dont think there is anyone out there that hits as hard as calzaghe, ****! did you see manfredo's face after that fight?
      did you see how batterred hopkins face was when they fought?
      imagine hopkins face in their second meeting, calzaghe would go for a knockout and no doubt hopkins would be put to sleep

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      • Mary Jane
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        Calzaghe padded his thin resume at the end of his career by taking on the best two fighters of the 90s. He got dropped by these senile old men in the 1st round both times. Jones and Hopkins both, if they were anywhere near their primes, put Joe to bed in 8 rounds.

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        • damned
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          #5
          Originally posted by Klitschko2009
          Calzaghe is the superior fighter, he clearly beat Hopkins

          Hopkins has the better resume

          skills vs resume

          I'm going with skills, past prime Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins and **** ****d him.

          Calzaghe >>> Hopkins
          I wouldn't say he "clearly" beat him.Hopkins was 43 and made Calzaghe look childish.You leave out that Hopkins is past his prime,yet insist Calzaghe is.In all fairness, Calzaghe had youth on his side and allowed Hopkins to knock him down.I seen Calzaghe throw a lot of flurries and only landing a rare,wild,ineffective "punch/slap".Hopkins landed cleaner and more effective punches.In fact,if you watch the fight,you will see Calzaghe slapping, hitting below the beltline several times,and playing dirtier than Hopkins.
          Calzaghe should have been penalized...sure Hopkins overexaggerated the low blows,but I'm sure it was to get the ref to deduct a point.Either way,this fight was a coin toss that Calzaghe won.Not a "CLEAR" win as you suggest.

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          • Run
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            #6
            LMFAO @ the one vote for Calzaghe and anyone who votes for him.

            Oh and the "Well he did beat Hopkins" card doesn't work.

            Junior Jones beat M.A.B. 2 times knockout. Means ****.



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            • hookoutofhell
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              #7
              i believe its calzaghe, he is the better fighter and when people say resume calzaghe has defeated a very good HOF'er (hopkins) outside of his SMW reigns.

              - i think when you compare their reigns at MW and SMW calzaghe has the better resume. i believe that he won the belt from a genuine champion, i believe that his wins are over a slightly better level of competition however if someone was to argue that both fighters have equal quality of title defenses then that is fair, what is unfair is saying that hopkins has the better level of defenses.

              -the defining factor in their reigns is that calzaghe beat the young up and comer in kessler and hopkins lost to taylor. twice.

              - outside of that i think hopkins has a series of misleading wins, wright and pavlik were fighters which hopkins cleverly exploited and called them out to weights they had no buisness being at. his win over tarver however does deserve respect.

              - however calzaghes own wins outside of SMW are very respectable especially over hopkins. no-one can make the argument that calzaghe fought at a weight that didn't suit his opponent, calzaghes win over RJJ however is virtually worthless.

              calzaghe imo is slightly ahead of hopkins, although not by alot. iv said beforehand that calzaghe should be ranked higher and the only way for him to really achieve that was to beat dawson, even though he shouldn't have to.

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                #8
                Originally posted by hookoutofhell
                i believe its calzaghe, he is the better fighter and when people say resume calzaghe has defeated a very good HOF'er (hopkins) outside of his SMW reigns.

                - i think when you compare their reigns at MW and SMW calzaghe has the better resume. i believe that he won the belt from a genuine champion, i believe that his wins are over a slightly better level of competition however if someone was to argue that both fighters have equal quality of title defenses then that is fair, what is unfair is saying that hopkins has the better level of defenses.

                -the defining factor in their reigns is that calzaghe beat the young up and comer in kessler and hopkins lost to taylor. twice.

                - outside of that i think hopkins has a series of misleading wins, wright and pavlik were fighters which hopkins cleverly exploited and called them out to weights they had no buisness being at. his win over tarver however does deserve respect.

                - however calzaghes own wins outside of SMW are very respectable especially over hopkins. no-one can make the argument that calzaghe fought at a weight that didn't suit his opponent, calzaghes win over RJJ however is virtually worthless.

                calzaghe imo is slightly ahead of hopkins, although not by alot. iv said beforehand that calzaghe should be ranked higher and the only way for him to really achieve that was to beat dawson, even though he shouldn't have to.

                Key phrase in all that drivel: I BELIEVE.

                next.

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                • hookoutofhell
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bsrizpac
                  Key phrase in all that drivel: I BELIEVE.

                  next.
                  isn't that what forums are for? opinions? debates?

                  are you gonna debate that hopkins is better and thats a FACT? or that your opnion is FACT?

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                  • MARKBNLV
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                    #10
                    I thought Hopkins won that fight people dont respect defense anymore.

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