Pacquiao's Adviser Prefers Cotto Next, Not Mayweather

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  • GRUSTLER
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    #221
    Originally posted by Iceta
    Two of those easy fights are on Mayweather's murderer's row of a resume.
    Your right, Floyd fought an Oscar De La Hoya who was
    at his natural weight 154lbs and healthy (With a title)
    and an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton who actually won
    a title at 147. That's not the point I'm making though
    Pac has dominated his last 3 fights by the surprise of
    many so shouldn't he want to get at Floyd? Obviously
    they think Cotto is less of a threat than Floyd and this
    article has stated that. Bob Arum will still make more
    $ if he let Pacquiao fight Floyd rather than Cotto.

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    • bray26
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      #222
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
      Freddie Roach don't want Pacquiao to fight Mosley or Mayweather
      because he knows their too tough for Manny bottom line. Freddie
      sees something in Cotto that gives Pac the chance and that is
      probably because Manny will be much faster than Cotto and
      more open for a flush power shot. Floyd/Shane too durable
      for Pac to look spectacular against and Top Rank is riding
      the wave. What if Cotto loses next month? Will Top Rank
      still make the fight happen?
      Did u say that Floyd is durable? In what fight did he prove that. His mouth is durable tho! Cotto PAC makes sense cuz Arum needs to throw Cotto a bone if he wants him to resign. Sooner or later PAC is going to take another loss because all the big fights for him r against naturally bigger guys and his power won't hurt them! He can't knock out floyd, cotto or shane. And they know that. They hope his hand speed will get him a decision and his best chance of that is against Floyd because he won't try to punch with him. He'll wait to try to counter and PAC will drop combos and get out range b4 floyd returns fire. Not saying it will work but that's the smart gameplan. Use his defensive nature against him! And Floyd better hope cotto does fall because I feel arum will bypass him. Floyd or cotto can beat him, so why let floyd be the one? If cotto beats PAC he's new p4p king and still with top rank. It's only smart, don't u think? And if Floyd wants the crown he'll have to take it from Cotto, then we'll see how bad he wants it

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      • CottOFan187
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        #223
        Pac aint duckin floyd floyd wudda waited 1 more day instead of signin that deal with jmm he wudda been fightin pac plus floyd doesn't seserve 60% thatt dude hasn't fought in to years cotto will destroy both of themm he won't beat fmj in 12 but if he touches his chinn he will break that glass jawww ... any1 recall the ricky hattan mayweather righ 1st round hattan almost dropped him its all but actually hittin him u guys are also forgettin how much of an awesome body puncher cotto iss.. That's gonna slow and fighter downnnn if u don't kno ask zab judah ask mosleyy ask ricardo torres any 1 else?

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        • FistoftheDallasStar
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          #224
          Some of you Floyd nut-huggers insinuate that Pac is scarred to face PBF so he'll face Cotto instead are amusing as hell. YOUR OWN FIGHTER (Mayweather for you slow ones) retired than have to face Cotto. Cotto would give Mayweather all he could handle and more. We will see if Mayweather will face Mosley after beating JMM. But we all know he won't.

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            #225
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            Your right, Floyd fought an Oscar De La Hoya who was
            at his natural weight 154lbs and healthy (With a title)
            and an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton who actually won
            a title at 147. That's not the point I'm making though
            Pac has dominated his last 3 fights by the surprise of
            many so shouldn't he want to get at Floyd?
            Obviously
            they think Cotto is less of a threat than Floyd and this
            article has stated that. Bob Arum will still make more
            $ if he let Pacquiao fight Floyd rather than Cotto.
            Manny knows what's coming to him if he fights Pretty Boy. He will get soundly outboxed by a superior boxer just as Juan Manuel Marquez showed in his two fights with Pacquiao. What's even worse for Manny against PBF is that he is A. Faster than JMM and B. Bigger than JMM. Can Pacquiao beat Mayweather? Anything is possible, but I certainly believe that Pacquiao is very much mortal when he fights a boxing counterpuncher, especially one that is FAST.

            Arum realizes this, as does Freddie Roach. Freddie has stated on many occasions he does not like the fight against Mayweather for the reasons I just stated. All fighters have their weaknesses, and Arum isn't ready to give up his crown ***el to his former one in PBF.

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              #226
              Originally posted by bray26
              Did u say that Floyd is durable? In what fight did he prove that. His mouth is durable tho! Cotto PAC makes sense cuz Arum needs to throw Cotto a bone if he wants him to resign. Sooner or later PAC is going to take another loss because all the big fights for him r against naturally bigger guys and his power won't hurt them! He can't knock out floyd, cotto or shane. And they know that. They hope his hand speed will get him a decision and his best chance of that is against Floyd because he won't try to punch with him. He'll wait to try to counter and PAC will drop combos and get out range b4 floyd returns fire. Not saying it will work but that's the smart gameplan. Use his defensive nature against him! And Floyd better hope cotto does fall because I feel arum will bypass him. Floyd or cotto can beat him, so why let floyd be the one? If cotto beats PAC he's new p4p king and still with top rank. It's only smart, don't u think? And if Floyd wants the crown he'll have to take it from Cotto, then we'll see how bad he wants it
              If that is the case than Top Rank should make it more
              clear than saying that Floyd/Pacquiao would be a boring fight.
              Pacquiao/Mayweather Jr would be a grueling fight and to say
              other wise is just an excuse. Cotto may not even get passed
              Clottey next month so what happened then? Everyone is
              talking as if Cotto is going to dominate Joshua Clottey? Don't
              see that happening. At this point Floyd will fight whoever
              makes sense and I am a avid believer that Floyd would spank
              Cotto anyway so if he's the man to beat then he will get his
              too.

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              • bray26
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                #227
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Your right, Floyd fought an Oscar De La Hoya who was
                at his natural weight 154lbs and healthy (With a title)
                and an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton who actually won
                a title at 147. That's not the point I'm making though
                Pac has dominated his last 3 fights by the surprise of
                many so shouldn't he want to get at Floyd? Obviously
                they think Cotto is less of a threat than Floyd and this
                article has stated that. Bob Arum will still make more
                $ if he let Pacquiao fight Floyd rather than Cotto.
                First off hatton was given a belt at 147 because in no way did he deserve that decision against collazo and I believe oscar beat mayorga for his belt a 154. Do you really want to use those two examples?

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  Your right, Floyd fought an Oscar De La Hoya who was
                  at his natural weight 154lbs and healthy (With a title)
                  and an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton who actually won
                  a title at 147. That's not the point I'm making though
                  Pac has dominated his last 3 fights by the surprise of
                  many so shouldn't he want to get at Floyd? Obviously
                  they think Cotto is less of a threat than Floyd and this
                  article has stated that. Bob Arum will still make more
                  $ if he let Pacquiao fight Floyd rather than Cotto.
                  pac's team says that cotto/pac is a more exciting fight and pbf/pac is a less exciting fight because of the styles involved. I dunno how anyone can deny this.

                  Originally posted by mrosborne
                  Manny knows what's coming to him if he fights Pretty Boy. He will get soundly outboxed by a superior boxer just as Juan Manuel Marquez showed in his two fights with Pacquiao. What's even worse for Manny against PBF is that he is A. Faster than JMM and B. Bigger than JMM. Can Pacquiao beat Mayweather? Anything is possible, but I certainly believe that Pacquiao is very much mortal when he fights a boxing counterpuncher, especially one that is FAST.

                  Arum realizes this, as does Freddie Roach. Freddie has stated on many occasions he does not like the fight against Mayweather for the reasons I just stated. All fighters have their weaknesses, and Arum isn't ready to give up his crown ***el to his former one in PBF.
                  floyd will fight defensive and make the fight slow. how can anyone deny this?

                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  If that is the case than Top Rank should make it more
                  clear than saying that Floyd/Pacquiao would be a boring fight.
                  Pacquiao/Mayweather Jr would be a grueling fight and to say
                  other wise is just an excuse. Cotto may not even get passed
                  Clottey next month so what happened then? Everyone is
                  talking as if Cotto is going to dominate Joshua Clottey? Don't
                  see that happening. At this point Floyd will fight whoever
                  makes sense and I am a avid believer that Floyd would spank
                  Cotto anyway so if he's the man to beat then he will get his
                  too.
                  TR and Roach has said that floyd/pac will be boring.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by CottOFan187
                    Pac aint duckin floyd floyd wudda waited 1 more day instead of signin that deal with jmm he wudda been fightin pac plus floyd doesn't seserve 60% thatt dude hasn't fought in to years cotto will destroy both of themm he won't beat fmj in 12 but if he touches his chinn he will break that glass jawww ... any1 recall the ricky hattan mayweather righ 1st round hattan almost dropped him its all but actually hittin him u guys are also forgettin how much of an awesome body puncher cotto iss.. That's gonna slow and fighter downnnn if u don't kno ask zab judah ask mosleyy ask ricardo torres any 1 else?
                    Did you just say Floyd had a glass jaw? If Cotto was such a
                    dominate puncher how come he couldn't KO Mosley/Margarito?
                    He connected on them flush almost at will and wasn't effective
                    of stopping them. Floyd whips Cotto all day anyday and when/if
                    that fight ever happens come see me and we can bet as many
                    points as you want.

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                    • mrosborne
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      pac's team says that cotto/pac is a more exciting fight and pbf/pac is a less exciting fight because of the styles involved. I dunno how anyone can deny this.


                      floyd will fight defensive and make the fight slow. how can anyone deny this?



                      TR and Roach has said that floyd/pac will be boring.
                      Yes, I tend to agree Mayweather would slow the pace and make it a wide UD for him. This is not the point. The point is the supposed two best P4P fighters in the world fighting each other for the fictitious title, right? You can't have it both ways. You either fight the other guy who is considered the old P4P best and risk a loss, or you take the ***** way out and say it's going to be boring. Last I checked champions fight other champions, not find excuses why NOT to fight them. That's called ducking.

                      P.S. I immensely dislike Mayweather, but I am not one to ignore facts or deny credit to one's abilities no matter how much I dislike a fighter.

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