Roy jones a top 20 All time fighter?

[VirusTI]

He had the talent to be top 3, let alone top 20.

While i see the point of "accomplished fighters", but in the ring you all know that he would beat most if not all of these "accomplished fighters". And remember few of these fighters actually beat a fighter as good as roy, like duran who lost to most of the ATGs he fought. Jones on the other hand easily beat Toney and Hopkins.

[Dan...]

He had the talent to be top 3, let alone top 20.

While i see the point of "accomplished fighters", but in the ring you all know that he would beat most if not all of these "accomplished fighters". And remember few of these fighters actually beat a fighter as good as roy, like duran who lost to most of the ATGs he fought. Jones on the other hand easily beat Toney and Hopkins.

You can make an argument either way for it, as the poll shows. A lot of it depends on how you weight different attributes when rating fighters on an all-time basis. The stronger weighting you give to resume the worse Roy does.

[JAB5239]

He had the talent to be top 3, let alone top 20.

This is an assumption, not a fact that can be proved.

While i see the point of "accomplished fighters", but in the ring you all know that he would beat most if not all of these "accomplished fighters".

Again, this is another assumption. It doesn't matter anyways since there are many different fighters from varying weight classes.

And remember few of these fighters actually beat a fighter as good as roy, like duran who lost to most of the ATGs he fought. Jones on the other hand easily beat Toney and Hopkins.

Beating Toney and Hopkins is fantastic. But it pales in comparison to the accomplishments of many other fighters.

[VirusTI]

I see both points, i just sometimes feel that resume gets too much weight placed on it. Good chat fellas

[pbftxrs316]

**** no!!!!!!!!!!!

He had the skills, but not the resume. He is top 60-70 tho.


Whoever thinks he is top 20 is a damn idiot, period!!!!!!!!!!

and those are the same people who rank floyd not even top 50 and floyd was dominant in his prime also and has never lost...add ot this, floyd was more skilled than roy and had the better fundamentals and much more polsihed, yet th ehatred he recieves for his persona makes people blind their judgment of him, when clearly floyd imo is the greater fighter when it comes to him and roy...but, they both fought pretty much the same competiton and both are considered the greatest of their eras...the hatred for floyd even though his skillset cannot ne denied ever is funny to me...

because roy was so dominant in his prime, that get shim top 20. it just goes to show me how young these posters are on this forum...roy is not top 20. he could have competed in any era just like floyd mayweather jr could have cometed in any era and they could both have been top fighters...that's a testament to their skillset...

[JAB5239]

I see both points, i just sometimes feel that resume gets too much weight placed on it. Good chat fellas

Its tough to argue against Jones talent, the guy was a phenom. But without the names I can't justify ranking him so high. I would say he's somewhere between 25 and 35, but its arguable.

In no particular order, I would rank these fighters ahead of Roy.

Robinson
Armstrong
Greb
Langford
Pep
Charles
Moore
Louis
Ali
Ray Leonard
Benny Leonard
Gans
Walker
Burley
Ross
Tunney
Fitzsimmons
Hagler
Duran
Whitaker
Monzon
McLarnin
Arguello
Spinks
Wilde

[VirusTI]

I know what your saying JAB, but out of all the fighters you named, who do you think would beat him in the ring

[JAB5239]

I know what your saying JAB, but out of all the fighters you named, who do you think would beat him in the ring

I would say Charles, Louis, Ali, Monzon and Spinks would beat him. I'd give a fair shot to Robinson, Burley, Hagler, Greb, Tunney and Moore, but wouldn't be willing to bet on it. The others are to small with the exception of Fitzsimmons who I haven't seen fight, so I can't really give an opinion.

On a side note.....I would also pick Bob Foster to beat Roy, though I think Roy rank higher all time.

[I Am Superman]

In his prime without a doubt. Jones would give anyone hell.

[K-Nan]

Top 30. He was as talented if not more talented than just about everyone above him, though.