HYPOTHETICAL: If Mayweather DOMINATES Pacquiao, where does PBF belong among ATG's?

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #71
    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
    Nelson, you are lying.

    Manny was 144 vs Barrera
    Manny was 147 vs Diaz
    Manny was 148 vs Oscar
    Manny was 148 vs Ricky


    That is Manny's size over the past 2 years.
    Lying? I don't get it. Please check boxrec yourself. I'm sure I got it right.

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      #72
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      Manny weighs in on fight night at, or close to Floyd.

      Going all the way back to 130 even.

      On fight night against Barrera in the rematch, Manny weighed in at 144.

      Against Diaz he weight in at 147, and against Oscar and Ricky he weighed in at 148.

      When Mayweather fought Oscar he weighed in at 150, and when he fought Ricky, he weighed in at 147.
      Those are unofficial weights and is irrelevant by boxing rules since there is no such thing as an extra weigh-in. What matters is what they weigh at the weigh-in. Some fighters choose to dehydrate more or less. It's allowed. It is what it is.

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #73
        Originally posted by El Dominicano
        Again, since Battling Nelson didn't answer me.

        What is the problem with Floyd being 148 against JMM as oppose to Pacquiao being 148 in a 3rd fight against Marquez?
        He was 130 wasn't he?

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        • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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          #74
          Originally posted by SuckaPunch
          ***** boy Floyd is a welterweight, therefore he should fight welterweights.

          Beating Pacquiao ain't gonna cut it for me, that's a given.

          But if it's Williams, Cotto, Mosley, etc., then it's a different story.
          No it would not!

          PW would be weight drained like Chico(R.I.P.), SSM would be washed up like Hernandez, and Cotto already quit against margie = damaged!

          There will always be an excuse for him not to be higly regarded in history by idiots who dont know the sport! So he and his camp will continue to make only the biggest fights for the sport and their wallets!

          Haters are goin to hate, thats why they are called haters!

          The real boxing heads will pay homage to a living legend!

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            #75
            Originally posted by jantzen212003
            No it would not!

            PW would be weight drained like Chico(R.I.P.), SSM would be washed up like Hernandez, and Cotto already quit against margie = damaged!

            There will always be an excuse for him not to be higly regarded in history by idiots who dont know the sport! So he and his camp will continue to make only the biggest fights for the sport and their wallets!

            Haters are goin to hate, thats why they are called haters!

            The real boxing heads will pay homage to a living legend!
            Indeed. There was a thread a while ago which was really funny about excuses. Nobody could mention a fight in which no excuses could be made for the loser.

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            • QUISQUEYA
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              #76
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Lying? I don't get it. Please check boxrec yourself. I'm sure I got it right.
              Nelson,

              Boxrec is merely reflecting weigh-in weights. The reality of a man's size is what he steps into the ring on fight night.

              Judan and Clottey were both 147. Were they really the same size?
              Was Gatti the same size as Gamache?
              Bernard Hopkins weighed in lower than Felix Trinidad. Who was the bigger man?

              There's a reason the fighters are weighed on fight night.

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              • Ishy Aytan
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                #77
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Indeed. There was a thread a while ago which was really funny about excuses. Nobody could mention a fight in which no excuses could be made for the loser.


                Its true, there will always be excuses.

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                • QUISQUEYA
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  He was 130 wasn't he?
                  Nelly,


                  Something tells me that you are intentionally playing "The Daft Laddie". You know very well that Manny and Floyd have been the same size for a long time now...

                  but you're hiding behind their weight classes.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                    Nelson,

                    Boxrec is merely reflecting weigh-in weights. The reality of a man's size is what he steps into the ring on fight night.

                    Judan and Clottey were both 147. Were they really the same size?
                    Was Gatti the same size as Gamache?
                    Bernard Hopkins weighed in lower than Felix Trinidad. Who was the bigger man?

                    There's a reason the fighters are weighed on fight night.
                    Look (kissy). I list the official weights from the weigh-in and you list some unofficial television weights and then you call me a liar and a crackhead? What does that make you?

                    Anyway we've been over it so many times.

                    I say fighters have to follow the rules and nothing more. The rules makes the classification.

                    You (Bringer, Benny Leonard and others) state that some unofficial parameter is paramount.

                    Let's just agree to disagree ok?

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                    • strugler
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                      #80
                      HBO and Boxrec weights ...are unofficial really.......

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