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  • MakeDamnSure
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    #111
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    He is just pissed (along with Bob Arum) that Floyd might take apart JMM; Manny's best win and most controversial/disputed fights.

    That's the only reason.

    Freddie should have thought about that when he slapped Floyd twice with taking the fights with Oscar and Hatton...

    Two slaps = a *****-slap back


    Floyd's the fraud but look at Freddie's tactics (which I've discussed before).
    Pac's best win was against Barrera in 2003. Floyd fought Hatton at 147. We all know what Collazo did to him there. I gave Floyd no credit. Hatton is the linear champ at 140... Pacquao moved up in weight to face Barrera, Morales and Marquez in which Floyd ducked Mosley, Cotto and Margarito. He called out Baldomir though the best Welterweight of this era.

    Pacquiao already ripped Floyd's best opponents. Floyd got embarrased.
    Last edited by MakeDamnSure; 05-09-2009, 12:39 AM.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
      YUP; that's why he is also hitting back. He is trying to make Floyd a joke to the public.

      Funny thing is, I remember hearing Freddie saying nothing but nice things about Jr. He even said Jr. calls him Mr. Roach when they see each other. That was a while back so I don't know if things changed.
      Although he also called Floyd ****ing boring, so...



      The smart thing for Floyd right now is to reverse roles and play the humble good guy and don't reverse back to "MONEY MAY."
      If he wants long term fortune, reverse now.
      Floyd has a damn AT&T commercial, there is not a more mainstream company in American then AT&T. You are right he should play a slightly different role, because that could cost him a lot of money in future advertisement. To do this all he basically has to do is be somewhat likeable and engaging, and not play his usual routine.

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        #113
        Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
        Pac's best win was against Barrera in 2003. Floyd fought Hatton at 147. We all know what Collazo did to him there. I gave Floyd no credit. Hatton is the linear champ at 140... Pacquao moved up in weight to face Barrera, Morales and Marquez in which Floyd ducked Mosley, Cotto and Margarito. He called out Baldomir though the best Welterweight of this era.

        Pacquiao already ripped Floyd's best opponents. Floyd got embarrased.

        When did Pacman fight Diego Corrales and JLC?

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          #114
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          When did Pacman fight Diego Corrales and JLC?
          Name an ATG fighter Floyd has beaten?

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            #115
            Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
            Name an ATG fighter Floyd has beaten?
            Name one Pacman has beat. When they actually were an ATG? JMM could be an ATG if he beats Floyd though, I think Barrea is great but a notch below the all time best (ATG do not get dominated by Junior Jones), Morales is in the same boat and Pacman lost to the best version he faced.

            Whatever though overrate whoever you wish, I know where my bank roll is at when this fight comes off.

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              #116
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              Name one Pacman has beat. When they actually were an ATG? JMM could be an ATG if he beats Floyd though, I think Barrea is great but a notch below the all time best (ATG do not get dominated by Junior Jones), Morales is in the same boat and Pacman lost to the best version he faced.

              Whatever though overrate whoever you wish, I know where my bank roll is at when this fight comes off.
              Its going to be on pacquiao isn't it, because I won't be able to hit what I can't see.

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                #117
                Originally posted by GetSumBrah
                Seriously people, u have got to be smarter than this. This whole notion that he's fighting the p4p 2# in the world after 1 plus years of retirement is BULL****.


                Can u guys not see through it? This is a sorry veiled attempt of a so called even fair challenging fight. Marquez is freaking career featherweight. He's had 2 fights at 135 where he's already pushing the limit.

                Floyd is a welterweight. This is worse than the "challenging glory fight" vs hatton @147. At least ricky fought at 147 before & started at 140. I dont even wanna hear that "he called me out" excuse for making fights.


                This is another "big challenging fight" sham excused by the fact that jmm is p4p 2#.


                Open your eyes people. Anybody with honest eyes can see what fraud jr is doing here.

                Unless of course your a member of the mayweather mafia....
                YOU are so right Mang !!!!!!!!!

                Dr. BoKacky the Medicine Mang

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                  Pac's best win was against Barrera in 2003. Floyd fought Hatton at 147. We all know what Collazo did to him there. I gave Floyd no credit. Hatton is the linear champ at 140... Pacquao moved up in weight to face Barrera, Morales and Marquez in which Floyd ducked Mosley, Cotto and Margarito. He called out Baldomir though the best Welterweight of this era.

                  Pacquiao already ripped Floyd's best opponents. Floyd got embarrased.
                  Again, Hatton was not a 140 pounder come fight-time. He was the same weight as Floyd. The only difference this time around is they skipped the charade of dehydrating weight and then rehydrating for the fight.

                  Hatton also said before the Floyd fight that unlike his bout with Collazo, where he made the mistake in bulking up to 158, he would just show up at a healthy weight like he was for JrWW. The big advantage here was not only would he be fighting at a weight he felt comfortable at by fight-time, but he wouldn't have to go through the process of dehydrating his body to much and then rehydrating it by fight-time, thus allowing him to have a better chance to show up healthy. For Floyd, he just doesn't like the process of dehydrating and rehydrating for the fight. He weighs under 150 come fight time.


                  Oscar and Haton:

                  Freddie talks about both. Oscar basically being dead for the fight and Hatton not being the same after Floyd. And then you have two different style fighters.

                  I guess Ali is a total ***** for not being able to destroy Frazier like Foreman?



                  Mosley: Steroids. Get him tested year round. Hell, I would even suggest that for everybody.

                  Margarito: Yes, Floyd didn't know he was a cheater either but he took the fight with Oscar because Oscar was more money and bigger for his legacy in Name boosting. Who is going to turn down that fight or risk it?

                  Cotto: I don't think Arum ever wanted to put Cotto in there with Floyd at that point or at least didn't want to deal with Floyd's people. Margarito however, he was all willing to do that.
                  It was basically: Fight Margarito or nobody.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-09-2009, 01:20 AM.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by FraudMayweather
                    Its going to be on pacquiao isn't it, because I won't be able to hit what I can't see.
                    Nope not at all. You will not understand my reasoning anyways so I will not waste my time explaining it to you~.

                    I hope everybody in the world except me bets on Manny, it will make the end result all the much sweeter (and more profitable).

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      Nope not at all. You will not understand my reasoning anyways so I will not waste my time explaining it to you~.

                      I hope everybody in the world except me bets on Manny, it will make the end result all the much sweeter (and more profitable).
                      Are you that fat guy on youtube gamblersadvisory who gets alot of his predictions wrong like Calzaghe/Roy, and Mosley/Margarito.

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