I think it's just the old adage, 'a good big man beats a good small(er) man'. I can't wait for the fight though. You'd have to bet your money on a decision.
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Freddie Roach: "Floyd Should Be Fraud Mayweather"
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Originally posted by GetSumBrah View PostI remember watching the 1st & second morales vs pacquiao fight & distinctively seeing Fraud jr. in the front row cheering his ass off every time manny landed combos on morales.
yet as soon as pacquiao starts threatening fraud's jr status in the sport he goes fake gangsta on pacquiao & freddy & starts bad mouthing him.
He calls himself the greatest of all time yet his best wins are against old oscar,castillo 2x, corrales, hatton, & gatti. How many HOFers do u see in that list? Yet he's so great?
Fraudulent
He throws money around, flaunts his wealth on camera, changes his nickname to money mayweather, tell's people he's sooo rich, he's worth so much money, yet the IRS put a 6.1 mil tax lien against him.
Fraudulent
Unretires because he wants to claim back his throne & take on all comers claiming he will fight anybody he's the best blah, blah, blah. Yet he takes on a career featherweight but will say that he's p4p 2# & he called me out excuse.
Fraudulent
Says he wants to make money & enhance his legacy.Fighting marquez will only enhance the first part. Yet didnt fight mosley, cotto, pwill all who are in his division & are much bigger money & legacy fights.
Fraudulent
I think freddie just about got it right.
Adding names like: JMM, PAC, MOSLEY, and COTTO, are good names.
Pac and Cotto might be tough fights to make because of Arum.
Mosley would be the easiest fight to make.
I'm not saying I'm in favor of what Floyd does but Floyd sells so he does it.
When he was just Pretty Boy Floyd, there wasn't much noise in his pocket. He turns into "Money Mayweather," lots of noise is made from his filled pockets.
He does need bigger legacy fights like I mentioned.
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Originally posted by dadd View Postwho did pac really beat?? every one pac beat was on a losing streak!! Eric Morales lost a trilogy to barrera, then erik lost to Zahir Raheem an unknown fighter!! then erik lost to manny pac!! so where is the glory in that?? Barrera old washed up!! Marquez well those were both contriversal dicisions!! most boxing experts say marquez won!! so who has manny pac really beat?? KNOWN fighters that were already LOSING!! now manny beat a old part time fighter!!! where is the glory in that??
erik morales
lost to barrera!!!
lost to a nobody Zahir Raheem!!
THEN loses to many pac!!!
manny pac beat a fighter on a losing streak, why is that a big deal???
oscar 35 years old !!
pro boxer for 17 years!!
oscar has not faught 147lbs over 8 years!!!
oscar is a part time fighter!!!
oscar lost 3 of his last 5 fights
oscar only fights 1 time a year, full time promoter, so what is the big deal??
manny pac needs to fight a prime fighter!! he has not done that yet!!
and with ricky hatton we all know DRUNKEN FIGHTER AND BAR FOOD EATING RICKY FATTON HATTON got K.O.ed by a soft handed fighter floyd mayweather!!! i said it would be an "EASY" k.o. before the fight!!
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Originally posted by GetSumBrah View PostI remember watching the 1st & second morales vs pacquiao fight & distinctively seeing Fraud jr. in the front row cheering his ass off every time manny landed combos on morales.
yet as soon as pacquiao starts threatening fraud's jr status in the sport he goes fake gangsta on pacquiao & freddy & starts bad mouthing him.
He calls himself the greatest of all time yet his best wins are against old oscar,castillo 2x, corrales, hatton, & gatti. How many HOFers do u see in that list? Yet he's so great?
Fraudulent
He throws money around, flaunts his wealth on camera, changes his nickname to money mayweather, tell's people he's sooo rich, he's worth so much money, yet the IRS put a 6.1 mil tax lien against him.
Fraudulent
Unretires because he wants to claim back his throne & take on all comers claiming he will fight anybody he's the best blah, blah, blah. Yet he takes on a career featherweight but will say that he's p4p 2# & he called me out excuse.
Fraudulent
Says he wants to make money & enhance his legacy.Fighting marquez will only enhance the first part. Yet didnt fight mosley, cotto, pwill all who are in his division & are much bigger money & legacy fights.
Fraudulent
I think freddie just about got it right.
Is that how you really feel? I would say Genaro is HoF, Corrales is HoF, JLC is HoF, Oscar for sure is HoF. Gatti and Hatton might also get in, considering how little you actually have to to to get into the HoF.
Way to spin his career to suit your beliefs~ can do it with just about any fighter~.
Try to show some real knowlegde and not be a parrot saying thing you really have no understanding of~.
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Originally posted by alagad View PostYOU ARE TALKING "FRAUD". COME TO YOUR SENSES, MAN! PACMAN DEMOLISHED DELA HOYA IN 8, WHILE PBF HAD TO DO IT THRU A DECISION! JUST RECENTLY, THE PACMAN DESTROYED HATTON IN 2, WHILE PBF HAD TO DO IT IN 10 AT WELTERWEIGHT! WHERE IS YOUR HEAD, MAN? IS THERE SOME "GRAY MATTER" IN THAT "COCO" ABOVE YOUR SHOULDER, MAN?!
And for Hatton, Freddie said he wasn't the same after Floyd.
Plus, styles make fights.
I guess Ali is **** for not being able to KO Frazier after Foreman destroyed him.
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Originally posted by Benny Leonard View PostAnd yet you have Freddie Roach who basically called Oscar a dead-man walking when he met Pac.
And for Hatton, Freddie said he wasn't the same after Floyd.
Plus, styles make fights.
I guess Ali is **** for not being able to KO Frazier after Foreman destroyed him.
Hatton is said to be never been the same after his fight with PBF, since he already earned one (1) loss after that. Meaning simply, his record was never the same as before. That's what its all about dude. Nothing more.
You were wrongly implying that the Dela Hoya and Hatton that The Pacman subdued were the lesser boxers than they were when they met PBF, which is a very absurd idea. Moronic at that. Delo Hoya's original natural fighting weight is at welterweight. While Hatton's natural fighting weight is at Junior Welterweight.
Lastly, the Great Ali is not ****. It was just Ali's fighting trade mark. When he box, he just was not there to destroy or outbox his opponent. He was in the ring likewise to entertain. That is why he was and is still dubbed as "The Greatest". Got it?
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Originally posted by alagad View PostDela Hoya was said to be a "dead man" (as a matter of expression) because Roach and The Pacman already came up with a very solid strategy neutralizing Dela Hoya's advantage and offensive style. Thanks to Roach's genius and The Pacman's superb skill.
Hatton is said to be never been the same after his fight with PBF, since he already earned one (1) loss after that. Meaning simply, his record was never the same as before. That's what its all about dude. Nothing more.
You were wrongly implying that the Dela Hoya and Hatton that The Pacman subdued were the lesser boxers than they were when they met PBF, which is a very absurd idea. Moronic at that. Delo Hoya's original natural fighting weight is at welterweight. While Hatton's natural fighting weight is at Junior Welterweight.
Lastly, the Great Ali is not ****. It was just Ali's fighting trade mark. When he box, he just was not there to destroy or outbox his opponent. He was in the ring likewise to entertain. That is why he was and is still dubbed as "The Greatest". Got it?
No, Freddie said that Hatton wasn't fighting the same like something was taken out of him. Not because of the 1 loss. Manny has been knocked out twice and has lost but Manny is better now than then.
They were even talking about Hatton being past his prime after his performance against Lazcano. Against Paulie he looked better but he had a fighter in front of him that was afraid to punch for fear of breaking his hands again; sort of a shock from injuring his hands to much and to many surgeries so his confidence was down.
Hatton and Oscar were worse off when they met Pac compared to Floyd, however; Hatton would have still been knocked out no matter what but Oscar at 154 where he was healthier and gained weight by fight-time would have been a bigger challenge.
Lastly, the Great Ali is not ****. It was just Ali's fighting trade mark. When he box, he just was not there to destroy or outbox his opponent. He was in the ring likewise to entertain. That is why he was and is still dubbed as "The Greatest". Got it?Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-09-2009, 02:33 AM.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostIs that how you really feel? I would say Genaro is HoF, Corrales is HoF, JLC is HoF, Oscar for sure is HoF. Gatti and Hatton might also get in, considering how little you actually have to to to get into the HoF.
Way to spin his career to suit your beliefs~ can do it with just about any fighter~.
Try to show some real knowlegde and not be a parrot saying thing you really have no understanding of~.
Gatti? Are u jokin?
Oscar and Hatton yes.
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