Roach wanted to fight Floyd ion his comeback fight vs. Pac........***** MOVE!!!

[sandyvahra]

How much heart did it take to fight with fractured and broken hands.....throught out his whole career?

How uch heart did it take jump 5 weight classes and be considered small in each one?

How much heart did it take to fight Castillo in your first fight at 135 pounds with no tune up?

How much heart did it take to fight Castillo with a torn rotator cuff...get hit more then ever and then rematch him IN YOUR NEXT FIGHT....when Castillo fought 2-3 times in that span?

How much heart did it take to fight a 38-1..Genaro Hernandez at 21 years old for the WBC featherweight title?

How much heart did it taker to fight the giant Corralles who was knocking people out left and right and was 33-0 when Floyd fought him?...Floyd gave Corralles the worse beating of his career.

How much heart did it take to get your ass beat 12 minutes and 4 rounds staright fighting the faster and more harder hitter in Judah....how much heart did it take to stalk his ass the rst of the fight?

How much heart did it take to beat Ricky at his own game and fight him in the pocket on the inside?

How much heart did it take to move up 154 pounds and fight Oscar?

With a small ring..so Floyd couldnt move...with small gloves with hopes that his hands would break??

Huh how much ****ing heart?

Huh?!

In a sentence, LESS than it took Leonard after a 3 year layoff, 2nd fight in 5 years, risking going blind, going up 2 divisions to fight the beast that was Hagler. Far less. That's not even close to the equivalent of floyd going up and fighting pwill at 160. THINK ABOUT THAT. Go do your homework on the sport son, you've proven your ignorance.

[RRICAN]

In a sentence, LESS than it took Leonard after a 3 year layoff, 2nd fight in 5 years, risking going blind, going up 2 divisions to fight the beast that was Hagler. Far less. That's not even close to the equivalent of floyd going up and fighting pwill at 160. THINK ABOUT THAT. Go do your homework on the sport son, you've proven your ignorance.

damnn bro that was some schooling you did there

[sandyvahra]

damnn bro that was some schooling you did there

Ha ha cheers bra.

[keio]

I'm going to entertain this thread simply out of boredom.


What is so different between the number 1 and 2 pound for pound fighter in the world in regards to this apparent "tuneup", you know the same fight Floyd declared isn't a "tuneup"?

Many people feel JMM actually beat Pacquiao at least once.

Is the gap that wide between Pac and JMM who have fought for the most part, 24 very close rounds?

Last I checked, 2 was right behind number 1.


So again, I ask, besides the official outcomes of the fight between Pac and JMM, what is the difference between 1 and 2 and

why is it ok to fight number 2 pound for pound, but not number 1?

Well-said!!!

[keio]

If Mayweather were to beat JMM in decisive fashion, the question would HAVE to be raised how well Pac would do against someone who is well above JMM in the skill department and does everything he does better with more power. At that point, the only counterpoint would be "well mayweather is too big", but even then, with pacman showing up at fight time at 148, im one of the few who doesnt think that excuse is going to hold much weight. Just as Mayweathers aura took a hit with pacman stopping 2 of mayweathers previous opponents, this would do the same to pacman.

Well above? I consider JMM a much better counter-puncher than Floyd. Floyd may be faster and more defensively sound, but JMM has the better technique.

[sandyvahra]

Well-said!!!

Well-said!!!

You guys heard of weight classes? lb 4 lb means nothing if you're skipping a division. PEOPLE IN GRAND RAPIDS WERE POLLED AND TWICE AS MANY WANTED A MOSLEY FIGHT OVER A JMM FIGHT. So it isn't a fight fans want, there's better fights out there. this is a tune up.

[El Jesus]

In a sentence, LESS than it took Leonard after a 3 year layoff, 2nd fight in 5 years, risking going blind, going up 2 divisions to fight the beast that was Hagler. Far less. That's not even close to the equivalent of floyd going up and fighting pwill at 160. THINK ABOUT THAT. Go do your homework on the sport son, you've proven your ignorance.

**** this example. Im serious. **** Ray Leonard doing something WORSE than floyd. Waiting for hagler to slowdown, going into the center of the ring just to announce his retirement, going on intentional layoffs to build fights, man **** that. Then pretending to flurry for 30 seconds of each round and stealing the fight from the rightful winner.

[El Jesus]

Well above? I consider JMM a much better counter-puncher than Floyd. Floyd may be faster and more defensively sound, but JMM has the better technique.

How does JMM have the better technique? JMM really only fights well when hes NOT on the offensive, like hes been the last few fights, he excels when he sits back and waits, floyd doesnt have to do that, he can, but he doesnt have to, JMM does.

[sandyvahra]

**** this example. Im serious. **** Ray Leonard doing something WORSE than floyd. Waiting for hagler to slowdown, going into the center of the ring just to announce his retirement, going on intentional layoffs to build fights, man **** that. Then pretending to flurry for 30 seconds of each round and stealing the fight from the rightful winner.

Hagler was 32 at the time I believe. I don't agree with Ray's antics outside the ring and what he did to Hagler, that was ******. I'm not debating who won the fight either. I thought Hagler won. I'm talking about the risk he took, im talking about the challenge he took.

[El Jesus]

Hagler was 32 at the time I believe. I don't agree with Ray's antics outside the ring and what he did to Hagler, that was ******. I'm not debating who won the fight either. I thought Hagler won. I'm talking about the risk he took, im talking about the challenge he took.

**** ray leonard, he waited, he actually DID what people accuse floyd mayweather of doing and he did it blatantly, it was only a "risk" when hagler slowed down after his fight with Mugabi and it became clear that ray leonard MIGHT have a chance at victory. How you gonna duck someone for so long they change their damn name just to get some respect. Im sorry, i give ray leonard VERY LITTLE respect for what he did, in a fight he did not win.