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  • #71
    Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
    **** ray leonard, he waited, he actually DID what people accuse floyd mayweather of doing and he did it blatantly, it was only a "risk" when hagler slowed down after his fight with Mugabi and it became clear that ray leonard MIGHT have a chance at victory. How you gonna duck someone for so long they change their damn name just to get some respect. Im sorry, i give ray leonard VERY LITTLE respect for what he did, in a fight he did not win.
    Regardless, the odds were against Leonard heavily in that fight. He fought a lot better than the odds indicated.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
      **** ray leonard, he waited, he actually DID what people accuse floyd mayweather of doing and he did it blatantly, it was only a "risk" when hagler slowed down after his fight with Mugabi and it became clear that ray leonard MIGHT have a chance at victory. How you gonna duck someone for so long they change their damn name just to get some respect. Im sorry, i give ray leonard VERY LITTLE respect for what he did, in a fight he did not win.
      i was about to bring that up.... nice post

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      • #73
        If you want anther example of heart just look at the man in my avatar. Any questions on his heart?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
          did larry approve this floyd related thread?
          no he did not

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          • #75
            Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
            How does JMM have the better technique? JMM really only fights well when hes NOT on the offensive, like hes been the last few fights, he excels when he sits back and waits, floyd doesnt have to do that, he can, but he doesnt have to, JMM does.
            both guys are defensive geniuses... jmm is the better combination puncher tho

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            • #76
              Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
              If you want anther example of heart just look at the man in my avatar. Any questions on his heart?
              why would you ask me that looking at my own avatar.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
                why would you ask me that looking at my own avatar.
                lol snap. my bad, just got to caught up in some youngens comparing floyd's heart to greats of the past.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
                  why would you ask me that looking at my own avatar.
                  The difference between Floyd and Ray was Ray was taking risky fights while he was in his prime. When Floyd reached his prime, he looked for the biggest money fights with less risk (since maybe 2002). It's not to take a shot at Floyd, but even Ray fighting Hagler in '87 was still a risky fight for Ray considering he was supposed to take a beating from Hagler and was out of the sport for about 3 years while hagler was still an active fighter. Ray also wasn't really heavily favored over Hearns either.

                  People don't deny Floyd's accomplishments, but as he became the #1 recognized fighter, he really hasn't lived up to his potential (which is when it counts). He tried taking the dramatic way out by retiring early, but the reception maybe wasn't what he was looking for and now another fighter has quickly taken his spot who seems to be filling the void Floyd couldn't provide...excitement.
                  Last edited by Ravishing; 05-08-2009, 05:59 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Ravishing View Post
                    The difference between Floyd and Ray was Ray was taking risky fights while he was in his prime. When Floyd reached his prime, he looked for the biggest money fights with less risk (since maybe 2002). It's not to take a shot at Floyd, but even Ray fighting Hagler in '87 was still a risky fight for Ray considering he was supposed to take a beating from Hagler and was out of the sport for about 3 years while hagler was still an active fighter. Ray also wasn't really heavily favored over Hearns either.
                    I see your point, but the only true way i can really agree is if floyd comes back, like hes back now, and does not fight ANY of the top welters after this JMM/Pac thing. Then i can truely say his career and legacy could have been better, i would agree.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Ravishing View Post
                      The difference between Floyd and Ray was Ray was taking risky fights while he was in his prime. When Floyd reached his prime, he looked for the biggest money fights with less risk (since maybe 2002). It's not to take a shot at Floyd, but even Ray fighting Hagler in '87 was still a risky fight for Ray considering he was supposed to take a beating from Hagler and was out of the sport for about 3 years while hagler was still an active fighter. Ray also wasn't really heavily favored over Hearns either.

                      People don't deny Floyd's accomplishments, but as he became the #1 recognized fighter, he really hasn't lived up to his potential (which is when it counts). He tried taking the dramatic way out by retiring early, but the reception maybe wasn't what he was looking for and now another fighter has quickly taken his spot who seems to be filling the void Floyd couldn't provide...excitement.
                      I gotta admit, floyd's resume could be better, but its good enough

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