Roach wanted to fight Floyd ion his comeback fight vs. Pac........***** MOVE!!!

[El Jesus]

It's how Roach put it that makes it a ***** move:




You see, he calls Floyd "scared" yet it is only bs talk because Floyd already signed to fight JMM because he needed a fight in July. Pac won't fight until later so he isn't implying Floyd should have waited longer; rust longer.
What Freddie is actually "scared" about, as well as Bob Arum who mentioned it, is Floyd beating JMM; the same fighter that some people think beat Pac not only once, but twice despite not getting the decision.

Floyd is fighting JMM to get under Pacman's Team's skin since they went after the last two opponents Floyd beat; Oscar and Hatton.

If Freddie had it his way, he would take Floyd in his first comeback fight back and have him sit out a while longer...that is, if he truly wants Pac to face him.
He did say Pac wanted to face Floyd so Pac is off the hook (unless Pac continues to go along with his team and doesn't want Floyd after all).

You see, Pac plans on fighting at the end of the year, and so does Floyd so to say they aren't waiting around for him is bs. Floyd will be there after JMM come July (if he beats JMM). That's plenty of time to make the fight and train for a fight at the end of the year.


Note: no matter how much training you do, how much sparring you do, I've always heard from boxers and trainers the overall opinion is it isn't the same as actually being under the lights, in front of a crowd, and actually fighting someone that wants to rip your head off.

If Mayweather were to beat JMM in decisive fashion, the question would HAVE to be raised how well Pac would do against someone who is well above JMM in the skill department and does everything he does better with more power. At that point, the only counterpoint would be "well mayweather is too big", but even then, with pacman showing up at fight time at 148, im one of the few who doesnt think that excuse is going to hold much weight. Just as Mayweathers aura took a hit with pacman stopping 2 of mayweathers previous opponents, this would do the same to pacman.

[Burner]

If Mayweather were to beat JMM in decisive fashion, the question would HAVE to be raised how well Pac would do against someone who is well above JMM in the skill department and does everything he does better with more power. At that point, the only counterpoint would be "well mayweather is too big", but even then, with pacman showing up at fight time at 148, im one of the few who doesnt think that excuse is going to hold much weight. Just as Mayweathers aura took a hit with pacman stopping 2 of mayweathers previous opponents, this would do the same to pacman.

Exactly..............

Especially when JMM will be knocked out.

[deevel79]

Exactly..............

Especially when JMM will be knocked out.

How much credit to u think Floyd would deserve if he were to KO JMM, since Floyd himself dismissed Marquez as a "little man who's not on my level" ??

[Pullcounter]

That showed me that Roach has no confidence that Manny can win.

"All Floyd had to do was wait more day to discuss a Pacman fight"


WTF?

Why would he go 2 years without fighting then fight Pac?

Roach is a joke.

OMFG You are so smart nah, actually you are a total ****head that doesn't know jack from ****

[larry x]

How much credit to u think Floyd would deserve if he were to KO JMM, since Floyd himself dismissed Marquez as a "little man who's not on my level" ??

as much credit as anyone who comes out of retirement to ko the p4p#2 guy in the sport....

[Benny Leonard]

How much credit to u think Floyd would deserve if he were to KO JMM, since Floyd himself dismissed Marquez as a "little man who's not on my level" ??

You seperate trash talk from the actual fighter's ability.



How much credit can Ali get for his trash talk of all his opponents?

[Walt Liquor]

Ok so if Floyd thought Marquez beat Pac twice, well what about everyone saying Floyd lost to JCC the first time around?

That's besides the point though, so if im following you you're saying Floyd's justified in fighting marquez since he beat pac twice & is #2 lb 4 lb. So Shane Mosley is the #1 WW at a top 5 lb 4 lb. Why not fight Mosley then? There was a poll in Grand Rapids, floyd's own hometown and twice as many people wanted the Shane fight over the JMM fight. Floyd again doesn't give fans what they want to see, same old swan song.

If JMM wasn't a tune up he'd fight a legit contender. Not a #2 lb 4 lb lightweight. It's a joke is what it is.

I understand your point, but that is not what I was saying. I was replying to the thread that says roach is a ***** for trying to say that floyd should have waited a day.

Look it's obvious that Floyd is going to fight at ww, but not fight any ww's. He is always looking for the easy way out. Now his kids can't even defend him by saying he fights for the most money cuz he could have taken the PAC fight, is biggest payday out there.

[S A M U R A I]

Why would he go 2 years without fighting then fight Pac?

Why not? If he's greater than SRR and Ali like he claims then he doesn't need a tune up, right? Also, Floyd said Marquez beat Manny twice, so why not take the easier option and just go straight to Pacquiao? I mean, clearly, Marquez is a harder fight, according to Floyd.



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[MACAQUEINBLACK]

If he's greater than SRR and Ali like he claims

Also, Floyd said

according to Floyd.

Understand the concept of hype.


I don't think Mayweather or any of these guys ponder their own words after spitting them anywhere near as much as you all do.



Often times, you're not quoting from candid, sincere chats. You're quoting from soundbites designed to sell events.

[Burner]

Why not? If he's greater than SRR and Ali like he claims then he doesn't need a tune up, right? Also, Floyd said Marquez beat Manny twice, so why not take the easier option and just go straight to Pacquiao? I mean, clearly, Marquez is a harder fight, according to Floyd.

You think Winky wish he took a tune up.....


Umm yea.

Floyd needs a tune up.....

His whole fighting style relies on timing...reflexes..counters.speed and dfefense..all things that go away with inactivity..