I Just Watched Pac-Hatton Last Night And....

[ThePunchingBag]

Chavez is an ATG but is flawed. You can be that way. Pac is a beast and I would still pick him against alot of guys but I just feel that Floyd is all wrong for him in the same way that Mosley is all wrong for Margarito and Pac is all wrong for Hatton

I saw basically the same things you did. The sloppy punches in the 2nd round were sort of disappointing to watch. I attribute it to Roach's basic game plan though. Land the Right hook, as many times as possible. Manny executed it beautifully but because his objective was to land right hooks, which Hatton was COMPLETELY open for, some of his fundamentals were lacking. I have Hatton's boxing skills in doubt if the most effective plan against him is "Land wild Right hook hay makers".

[The-BOSS]

you guys are insane if you think that he beats Floyd. If you bet on him then you will go broke. Not only will he lose but he will look like a clown in the process. I use to think that Pac had grown as an all around fighter but he hasnt. He's still basically the same guy and thats why JMM will always give him hell. No way he kills JMM at 140 like people think. He's still pretty sloppy and doesnt have great fundementals. He has good footwork when it comes to doing what he wants to do but his footwork is horrible if you make him do something else. Hatton just played right into his hands. People think that he's so different from the guy that fought JMM but look at who he's fought. He fought Diaz, Oscar, and Hatton. 3 guys with horrible skills at this stage of there career who all were coming right at him with no D.

Its a completely different fight with Floyd. It would be exactly like Pac fighting JMM except Floyd's bigger, stonger, faster, has a much better defense, is taller, and even though the haterz dont want to beleive it, he's actually smarter and is a better pure boxer then JMM. Trust me, Im not a hater. I actually was worried that Pac may give him hell. I thought because Pac was a Southpaw and all this that he may give Floyd real trouble. Ive always said that the only way to beat Floyd is to either be so much bigger then him that all he can do is pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw who catches him. I thought Pac's combo of size, speed, power, and Southpaw style may give Floyd serious trouble. I saw Zab land a few shots early until Floyd figured him out and I saw Chop catch him and land a few shots but guess what? Zab, Chop, and Mitchell are all way way way better pure boxers then Pac. I thought he had grown but he hasnt. Floyd would eat him up and it would be easy. People are insane when they say that Floyd wont want the fight. I bet he wants that fight more then anything because he knows that he will dominate him and I think Roach is even worried about it.

Seriously though, I think not only does Floyd win but he wins easily and makes Pac look like a straight amature. It would be like all the JMM highlights against Pac but Floyd will be doing it non stop all fight because his D is superior to JMM and he's faster and stronger. He'll outclass Pac so bad and then stop him. This will be a mega event and its going to end by a shocking one sided KO with Pac looking like he wasnt even close to being in Floyd's league. He's still sloppy, off balance, and basic with his punches. Theyre so basic and if you think that stuff that works on David Diaz, Hatton, and a zombied Oscar will work on Floyd then you are in for the shock of your life. He'll beat Pac so bad that it will make him darn near legendary in the mainstream. As good as I think that Floyd is, the Pac fight will make him look even better because of there styles and skill level. I added this in a later post but its one of the main reasons why I wrote this and that is to say that Pac is wide open for the straight right. Southpaws are open to it but he's way way open to it and he cant counter with that right hook because Floyd keeps his left hand up unlike Hatton.

Floyd will land that punch a million times in this fight and make the crowd saw ooh every time. There are going to be a ton of ooh punches in this fight from Floyd because the difference in pure skill levels. You will see his punches so clean while Pac will mostly land grazing stuff at best. I think it will be like a poor mans or rich mans MAB-Naz depending on which way you look at it.

I agree with you 100%.Floyd would make a joke out of manny. The only guy i see beating Floyd is Paul Williams but we know that fight will never happen...

[Mr. Philadel]

you guys are insane if you think that he beats Floyd. If you bet on him then you will go broke. Not only will he lose but he will look like a clown in the process. I use to think that Pac had grown as an all around fighter but he hasnt. He's still basically the same guy and thats why JMM will always give him hell. No way he kills JMM at 140 like people think. He's still pretty sloppy and doesnt have great fundementals. He has good footwork when it comes to doing what he wants to do but his footwork is horrible if you make him do something else. Hatton just played right into his hands. People think that he's so different from the guy that fought JMM but look at who he's fought. He fought Diaz, Oscar, and Hatton. 3 guys with horrible skills at this stage of there career who all were coming right at him with no D.

Its a completely different fight with Floyd. It would be exactly like Pac fighting JMM except Floyd's bigger, stonger, faster, has a much better defense, is taller, and even though the haterz dont want to beleive it, he's actually smarter and is a better pure boxer then JMM. Trust me, Im not a hater. I actually was worried that Pac may give him hell. I thought because Pac was a Southpaw and all this that he may give Floyd real trouble. Ive always said that the only way to beat Floyd is to either be so much bigger then him that all he can do is pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw who catches him. I thought Pac's combo of size, speed, power, and Southpaw style may give Floyd serious trouble. I saw Zab land a few shots early until Floyd figured him out and I saw Chop catch him and land a few shots but guess what? Zab, Chop, and Mitchell are all way way way better pure boxers then Pac. I thought he had grown but he hasnt. Floyd would eat him up and it would be easy. People are insane when they say that Floyd wont want the fight. I bet he wants that fight more then anything because he knows that he will dominate him and I think Roach is even worried about it.

Seriously though, I think not only does Floyd win but he wins easily and makes Pac look like a straight amature. It would be like all the JMM highlights against Pac but Floyd will be doing it non stop all fight because his D is superior to JMM and he's faster and stronger. He'll outclass Pac so bad and then stop him. This will be a mega event and its going to end by a shocking one sided KO with Pac looking like he wasnt even close to being in Floyd's league. He's still sloppy, off balance, and basic with his punches. Theyre so basic and if you think that stuff that works on David Diaz, Hatton, and a zombied Oscar will work on Floyd then you are in for the shock of your life. He'll beat Pac so bad that it will make him darn near legendary in the mainstream. As good as I think that Floyd is, the Pac fight will make him look even better because of there styles and skill level. I added this in a later post but its one of the main reasons why I wrote this and that is to say that Pac is wide open for the straight right. Southpaws are open to it but he's way way open to it and he cant counter with that right hook because Floyd keeps his left hand up unlike Hatton.

Floyd will land that punch a million times in this fight and make the crowd saw ooh every time. There are going to be a ton of ooh punches in this fight from Floyd because the difference in pure skill levels. You will see his punches so clean while Pac will mostly land grazing stuff at best. I think it will be like a poor mans or rich mans MAB-Naz depending on which way you look at it.

I agree!!!........solid post my dude

[silip03]

you guys are insane if you think that he beats Floyd. If you bet on him then you will go broke. Not only will he lose but he will look like a clown in the process. I use to think that Pac had grown as an all around fighter but he hasnt. He's still basically the same guy and thats why JMM will always give him hell. No way he kills JMM at 140 like people think. He's still pretty sloppy and doesnt have great fundementals. He has good footwork when it comes to doing what he wants to do but his footwork is horrible if you make him do something else. Hatton just played right into his hands. People think that he's so different from the guy that fought JMM but look at who he's fought. He fought Diaz, Oscar, and Hatton. 3 guys with horrible skills at this stage of there career who all were coming right at him with no D.

Its a completely different fight with Floyd. It would be exactly like Pac fighting JMM except Floyd's bigger, stonger, faster, has a much better defense, is taller, and even though the haterz dont want to beleive it, he's actually smarter and is a better pure boxer then JMM. Trust me, Im not a hater. I actually was worried that Pac may give him hell. I thought because Pac was a Southpaw and all this that he may give Floyd real trouble. Ive always said that the only way to beat Floyd is to either be so much bigger then him that all he can do is pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw who catches him. I thought Pac's combo of size, speed, power, and Southpaw style may give Floyd serious trouble. I saw Zab land a few shots early until Floyd figured him out and I saw Chop catch him and land a few shots but guess what? Zab, Chop, and Mitchell are all way way way better pure boxers then Pac. I thought he had grown but he hasnt. Floyd would eat him up and it would be easy. People are insane when they say that Floyd wont want the fight. I bet he wants that fight more then anything because he knows that he will dominate him and I think Roach is even worried about it.

Seriously though, I think not only does Floyd win but he wins easily and makes Pac look like a straight amature. It would be like all the JMM highlights against Pac but Floyd will be doing it non stop all fight because his D is superior to JMM and he's faster and stronger. He'll outclass Pac so bad and then stop him. This will be a mega event and its going to end by a shocking one sided KO with Pac looking like he wasnt even close to being in Floyd's league. He's still sloppy, off balance, and basic with his punches. Theyre so basic and if you think that stuff that works on David Diaz, Hatton, and a zombied Oscar will work on Floyd then you are in for the shock of your life. He'll beat Pac so bad that it will make him darn near legendary in the mainstream. As good as I think that Floyd is, the Pac fight will make him look even better because of there styles and skill level. I added this in a later post but its one of the main reasons why I wrote this and that is to say that Pac is wide open for the straight right. Southpaws are open to it but he's way way open to it and he cant counter with that right hook because Floyd keeps his left hand up unlike Hatton.

Floyd will land that punch a million times in this fight and make the crowd saw ooh every time. There are going to be a ton of ooh punches in this fight from Floyd because the difference in pure skill levels. You will see his punches so clean while Pac will mostly land grazing stuff at best. I think it will be like a poor mans or rich mans MAB-Naz depending on which way you look at it.

what is this a joke? how much gayweather pay you to write this long paragraph?

[el malo]

Floyd beats pac and cotto beats both

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Great post, forget the haters saying you don't know what you're talking about.

And he called me a cheerleader!!!!!!!!

[strugler]

just another, wouldve,shoulve,couldve thread...................really..........

[fcastro1]

you guys are insane if you think that he beats Floyd. If you bet on him then you will go broke. Not only will he lose but he will look like a clown in the process. I use to think that Pac had grown as an all around fighter but he hasnt. He's still basically the same guy and thats why JMM will always give him hell. No way he kills JMM at 140 like people think. He's still pretty sloppy and doesnt have great fundementals. He has good footwork when it comes to doing what he wants to do but his footwork is horrible if you make him do something else. Hatton just played right into his hands. People think that he's so different from the guy that fought JMM but look at who he's fought. He fought Diaz, Oscar, and Hatton. 3 guys with horrible skills at this stage of there career who all were coming right at him with no D.

Its a completely different fight with Floyd. It would be exactly like Pac fighting JMM except Floyd's bigger, stonger, faster, has a much better defense, is taller, and even though the haterz dont want to beleive it, he's actually smarter and is a better pure boxer then JMM. Trust me, Im not a hater. I actually was worried that Pac may give him hell. I thought because Pac was a Southpaw and all this that he may give Floyd real trouble. Ive always said that the only way to beat Floyd is to either be so much bigger then him that all he can do is pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw who catches him. I thought Pac's combo of size, speed, power, and Southpaw style may give Floyd serious trouble. I saw Zab land a few shots early until Floyd figured him out and I saw Chop catch him and land a few shots but guess what? Zab, Chop, and Mitchell are all way way way better pure boxers then Pac. I thought he had grown but he hasnt. Floyd would eat him up and it would be easy. People are insane when they say that Floyd wont want the fight. I bet he wants that fight more then anything because he knows that he will dominate him and I think Roach is even worried about it.

Seriously though, I think not only does Floyd win but he wins easily and makes Pac look like a straight amature. It would be like all the JMM highlights against Pac but Floyd will be doing it non stop all fight because his D is superior to JMM and he's faster and stronger. He'll outclass Pac so bad and then stop him. This will be a mega event and its going to end by a shocking one sided KO with Pac looking like he wasnt even close to being in Floyd's league. He's still sloppy, off balance, and basic with his punches. Theyre so basic and if you think that stuff that works on David Diaz, Hatton, and a zombied Oscar will work on Floyd then you are in for the shock of your life. He'll beat Pac so bad that it will make him darn near legendary in the mainstream. As good as I think that Floyd is, the Pac fight will make him look even better because of there styles and skill level. I added this in a later post but its one of the main reasons why I wrote this and that is to say that Pac is wide open for the straight right. Southpaws are open to it but he's way way open to it and he cant counter with that right hook because Floyd keeps his left hand up unlike Hatton.

Floyd will land that punch a million times in this fight and make the crowd saw ooh every time. There are going to be a ton of ooh punches in this fight from Floyd because the difference in pure skill levels. You will see his punches so clean while Pac will mostly land grazing stuff at best. I think it will be like a poor mans or rich mans MAB-Naz depending on which way you look at it.

he could have boxed hatton but he wanted to give a show. you must be realy ****** if you think he would fight floyd that way.

[fcastro1]

no matter what you floyd fanboys want to believe, pac has all the tools to beat mayweather. floyd has never fought a fighter of the calibre of pac. how exactly is floyd going to outclass pac when he had trouble with castillo, judah for the first 6 rounds, delahoya, and now he wil dismantle pac. give me a break.


its obvious you fanboys are getting scared of the threat of pac the reason why you have to put him down. pac is a real threat.

[DLT]

he could have boxed hatton but he wanted to give a show. you must be realy ****** if you think he would fight floyd that way.

Its not the style of the fight bnut the skill and fundementals of the fighter. Sure he may fight Floyd a different way but he's still going to be flawed and amatureish in alot of things that he does. Thats why he will always blowout a guy like Hatton, Oscar, and Diaz but will always have hell with a guy like JMM