Mayweather vs. Pavlik or JMM vs. Mayweather. Equally (un)fair?

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  • vandiar
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    #141
    Why is there so much debate about FMJ fighting JMM? THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE! Juan started out at 126, PBF started out at 130. Fact is JMM accepted the fight, and PBF has been out of the ring for more than a year. JMM is considered a top 5 P4P fighter, and people are calling this a "tune up" for PBF? I mean this is getting ridiculous. This is going to be a good fight, regardless of how blind some of you are.
    This guy said it best
    Here's what people don't consider when talking about this issue. Floyd has always fought at or around his natural weight. He walks around at about 150-155 max. He could weigh in at 147 and on fight night won't move more than a pound because it's his natural weight and is in great shape. Marquez is roughly about the same size minus maybe an inch. the difference is that Marquez is like many other fighters who drain and dehydrate to make the weigh in while Floyd could have done the same and fought at 130 much longer and be now 135-140 but he would rather not do that and has enough skills to compete against some of the bigger guys within reason. They are roughly the same size naturally and I'd bet money that Marquez walks around heavier than Floyd just as Hatton did but he cuts to compete in lower divisions. Thats the difference in size between them. Pavlik has a completely different sized body and is WAY bigger so Mayweather would never fight him but people shouldn't make such a big issue about a size difference here. Of course it would be nice for him to fight Mosley but people are saying that Pacquiao is #1 and Mayweather wants to stop that talk. Thats what this fight with Marquez is about. Even though Marquez is better than a tune up it's a fight that he better be prepared for and is to get him ready for Pacquiao
    Accept this fight is happening, and quit down playing PBF. This is a fair fight, PERIOD!

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #142
      Originally posted by larrysmith
      no i said you're a d-level poster...all we gotta say is floyd..and you will come with every negative statement you can think of
      Not really, I overlook plenty of Floyd threads and don't even bother with them.

      You on the other hand, make threads about Floyd and other fighters,

      then cry when people don't agree with you,

      and then make a thread about everyone being peaceful.


      But yea,

      how many accounts have you used up now?

      I'm still on my first.

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      • K-Nan
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        #143
        Originally posted by vandiar


        Accept this fight is happening, and quit down playing PBF. This is a fair fight, PERIOD!
        Lol, he is in support the PBF-JMM fight dude. I know it's a big paragraph but you gotta be brave and try reading more than two lines.

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        • Mary Jane
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          #144
          Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
          Not as bored as you do when he gives you chin nuts.

          Oh wait,

          you actually like that.
          Run! Quick, your sister's having another baby.

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          • Vasyl’s dad
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            #145
            Originally posted by K-Nan
            Stop spotlighting other ****. What you're getting into is human anatomy.. And that JLC case is a whole different topic.

            And even if your singular case meant anything to the argument, it doesn't help prove that official weights are more important overall.


            So why have official weights then?

            No need for them right?


            and the JLC case is relevant in that he simply could not, no matter how hard he tried, get back down to 135. It happened with Chico as well.

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            • vandiar
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              #146
              Let me flip this on you. It is fair for JMM (top 5 P4P fighter) to be fighting PBF after PBF has been on year and a half lay off? This works both ways.

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              • bsrizpac
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                #147
                Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!

                lol belts, its about the belts now eh? I thought it was about money and legacy?

                There was a problem,

                Tony at the time posed a legitimate threat.

                Something Floyd hasn't wanted since Castillo.

                Same reasoning for not fighting Cotto, Mosley or any other welter of note.
                No actually Tony has always been a jobber joke. but hey, keep imagining things. Threat my ass.

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Marijuana
                  Run! Quick, your sister's having another baby.



                  quieres mija?

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                  • BattlingNelson
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by kswizzy99
                    am I against weight divisions, no. because usually fighters in every weight class are generally the same height but, I do think there are twice as many weight classes as there should be. most weight divisions were created for the sole purpose of making the boxing organizations more money through royalties and some ppl can't see past that and make their own judgments.

                    and you're trying to make it look like that your "weight" argument is more valid than my "height and reach" argument. if you have any boxing knowledge at all, I think you can figure out the ridiculousness in that.
                    So I am ridiculous for thinking Tommy Hearns vs. Ray Leonard and Paul Williams vs.Winky etc. were fair fights?

                    You're thinking that those fights were unfair right?

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                    • larry x
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                      Not really, I overlook plenty of Floyd threads and don't even bother with them.

                      You on the other hand, make threads about Floyd and other fighters,

                      then cry when people don't agree with you,

                      and then make a thread about everyone being peaceful.


                      But yea,

                      how many accounts have you used up now?

                      I'm still on my first.
                      this is my second account...i try to make a thread and be reasonable..and you come in there and act like a child so whats the point??

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