Why doesnt PBF fight Mosley at 147 in July?

[JAB5239]

But few care about looking at the details of what is taking place. If Floyd loses, most will not remember or think that the layoff may have had something to do with it. If I debate his injuries or that he may be on the slide, few seem to take notice and care; they just see the "O" so he is Perfect.

Plus, a Great General understands when to fight and if he loses because he miscalculates, goes into battle before he is ready...that's a mark against his Generalship.

You have to go into a fight knowing you may die so if you know that, give yourself the best possible chance of living on by being at your best and winning.

Floyd already goes into fights with weapons that could break at any point in the fight so he needs to be at his best to give him his best shot to win. He only has so many bullets he can throw now and his legs aren't young anymore so he has to stand his ground more and in order to do that, your body has to be adjusted to taking the punishment again. And he also has to see where he is at Mentally (as well as Physically) in order to see if the greater battle can be won.

So you think choosing to fight a guy with just two fights at 135 and none at 140 or 47 is the best plan of attack to be appreciated? Come on now Benny.

And every fighter goes into battle with weapons that could break at anytime. Its part of the sport.

Every great fighter takes chances. All they can do is prepare themselves to the best of their ability for the chances they take.

[JAB5239]

JMM is a tune up.

Winky tried that shyt and got ****d...tune ups are in boxing for a reason...Why do you think every sport has a PRE-season?..Boxing is no diffrent.

Floyd will fight the Hatton-Pac winner....then the last man standing from Cotto/Mosley/Clottey/Berto for the Unified WW title.

Like I said in another thread, Floyd stans have been saying this and excusing his cherry picking since Baldomir.

And why is it Floyd is let off the hook to "fight the last man standing" while these other guys are ridiculed by the *****s for taking on the best around, yet getting losses?

[Benny Leonard]

So you think choosing to fight a guy with just two fights at 135 and none at 140 or 47 is the best plan of attack to be appreciated? Come on now Benny.

And every fighter goes into battle with weapons that could break at anytime. Its part of the sport.

Every great fighter takes chances. All they can do is prepare themselves to the best of their ability for the chances they take.

I said many times I wasn't in favor of Floyd fighting JMM but I understood why he was doing it. Fighting JMM, a fighter that some will say beat Pac as well as being rated the #2 P4P fighter, will allow for a tune-up, while also out-doing Pac if he knocks him out...thus setting up a Mega-Fight with Pac (if Pac beats Hatton).

I am not in favor of it but I am also not in Floyd's position. Floyd will be able to make that money and take out "Name" fighters.

Only people that break it down really care. But I also break down fight-time weights to show a better view of weight/size as well and few care about that.

My view was that if Floyd needs a tune-up fight, he can get someone his size by fighting a JrWW that shows up at 149 by fight-time...as long as Floyd is still able to show up at that weight as well again. Then, he can see where he is and if he is good to go, fight Cotto or Mosley. If he needs one more, which I doubt he will take, he could try to get a fight with a WW like Berto.


True, all fighters are at risk for breaking their hands and getting other injuries, but it is well known that Floyd is the equivalent of Gatti with his hands. It's highly likely he breaks them or injuries them in some way during a fights. Not sure with his other injuries what's going on with that.

Right now, Floyd is going to see where he is at as a fighter.


If I had it my way, Fighters would be facing off at least every 3 months against the best as long as they are healthy (even though Old Timers were going in injured all the time). But, that's not how it works.

We also have the fight-time weight issue which I've discussed many times. Either fight closer in weight to the actual listed weight of the division, if not at the division weight, or get rid of it all and have everybody as free-agents.

[Bhopreign]

I dont see how its cherry picking if someone is willing to pay you 10+ million per fight. Obviously somebody likes the fight in order for that much money to be in the pot.

[BmoreBrawler]

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Like I said in another thread, Floyd stans have been saying this and excusing his cherry picking since Baldomir.

And why is it Floyd is let off the hook to "fight the last man standing" while these other guys are ridiculed by the *****s for taking on the best around, yet getting losses?

Hmm, I wouldn't be shocked if a broke Fraud came back to fight Hatton should he miraculously win and then an old Mosley 1 year later.

[Miburo]

I don't think Mosley could be referred to as a tune-up.

[JAB5239]

It has everything to do with how Floyd acts, which is just an act itself. This is common sense. Berto can continue fighting nobodies and as long as he is soft spoken he wont be treated the same way.

Act or no act its still not based on color. If you act like a ashole and claim to be the best with out fighting the best, people are going to dislike you, white, black, brown, yellow or any other color of the rainbow you care to mention. If its just an act these facts should be readily accepted, no?

But you are right about Berto. As long as he gracious and soft spoken people won't worry about who he fights. But this would hold true no matter what color he was.

[JAB5239]

I said many times I wasn't in favor of Floyd fighting JMM but I understood why he was doing it. Fighting JMM, a fighter that some will say beat Pac as well as being rated the #2 P4P fighter, will allow for a tune-up, while also out-doing Pac if he knocks him out...thus setting up a Mega-Fight with Pac (if Pac beats Hatton).

I am not in favor of it but I am also not in Floyd's position. Floyd will be able to make that money and take out "Name" fighters.

Only people that break it down really care. But I also break down fight-time weights to show a better view of weight/size as well and few care about that.

My view was that if Floyd needs a tune-up fight, he can get someone his size by fighting a JrWW that shows up at 149 by fight-time...as long as Floyd is still able to show up at that weight as well again. Then, he can see where he is and if he is good to go, fight Cotto or Mosley. If he needs one more, which I doubt he will take, he could try to get a fight with a WW like Berto.


True, all fighters are at risk for breaking their hands and getting other injuries, but it is well known that Floyd is the equivalent of Gatti with his hands. It's highly likely he breaks them or injuries them in some way during a fights. Not sure with his other injuries what's going on with that.

Right now, Floyd is going to see where he is at as a fighter.


If I had it my way, Fighters would be facing off at least every 3 months against the best as long as they are healthy (even though Old Timers were going in injured all the time). But, that's not how it works.

We also have the fight-time weight issue which I've discussed many times. Either fight closer in weight to the actual listed weight of the division, if not at the division weight, or get rid of it all and have everybody as free-agents.

Fair enough my friend. Agree or disagee I always respect your posts.

[JAB5239]

I dont see how its cherry picking if someone is willing to pay you 10+ million per fight. Obviously somebody likes the fight in order for that much money to be in the pot.

People are easily swayed into spending money when they think they are going to get more than they really are. Thats why the promoters, PR people and power brokers at HBO make such exoberant amounts of money. They are good at bull****ting gullable fans. They are the modern day carnival barkers promising to show you the half man half horse all for a very small fee. Something you will never forget!

[Bhopreign]

People are easily swayed into spending money when they think they are going to get more than they really are. Thats why the promoters, PR people and power brokers at HBO make such exoberant amounts of money. They are good at bull****ting gullable fans. They are the modern day carnival barkers promising to show you the half man half horse all for a very small fee. Something you will never forget!

So who should Floyd fight in his first fight? Are you saying Marquez is too small, I still have the Diaz fight on my DVR and watched some of it today, Marquez is not small, big around the waist and chest with huge arms.