NSB: Would you rather have Floyd fight the BEST of any weightclass or Just WW?

[TysonFury_ATG]

Well the real question is what weight does Floyd wanna fight at? If he wants to fight at Welterweight which according to the the press releases, is the weight he wants to fight at. Then why do you Floyd nuthuggers constantly stick up for him fighting smaller guys rather than fighting the elite at Welterweight like Cotto or Mosley?

Horus Already Address This Question:

Floyd fans have no problem with floyd fighting Other WW's...
The problem is that People saying he can ONLY fight Welterweights for it to be a legitimate fight and win, when he himself is not really a welterweight compared to the rest of the welterweights...
People say all he has to fight a real WW and nobody else..!!!
thats what make floyd fans feel like you guys are bing hypocritical....
and plus..
Floyd has already become lineal WW champion of the world.

Addressing The Weightclass Situation

What’s more important????

What the Fighters weighs before the fight ???

or

What the Fighter weighs at the time of the fight???


The reason that weight classes exist at all is to ensure a fair fight. Fair and safe competition begins with the requirement that the two men facing each other are the same size in terms of weight.

Imagine if we had same day weigh in's...

Like Larry Merchent said:
"Ultimately what will happen is that fighters will start to fight at a weight that is more natural for them, instead of cheating the system"

If Fighters knew that they would not have more than a day to replenish thier body, they would not have pretended to be a welterweight instead of a middleweight.

If you are suppose to be a 147 pound fighter you should not be rehydrating to 165 pounds..., Correct????

This tells me that Fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.



At Welterweight Floyd fights at a Physical Disadvantage every fight, because he is coming in at the welterweight limit and other fighters are coming in as Middleweights...! How is that a fair fight and not a adavantage for the other fighter???

I am pretty sure if Floyd wanted to fight middleweights, he would rather fight for a middleweight title rather than a welterweight title. Where he suppose to be fighting 147 pound fighters not 165 pounds Fighters posing as 147 pound fighters....

I didn't even bother reading your reply because as usual I realised that there was a lot of needless bolding and colouring of font's which meant that your reply was just made yet again to make yourself feel important and intelligent. Plus you probably couldn't explain yourself properly while sucking floyd's ****.

[Horus]

I read it. It answers very little of what I said. We had a good debate going here. Why not respond to my post? Thanks.

My Answer to your question.

I have no problem with floyd fighting Other WW's...(Cotto,berto,etc)

The problem I have is that People saying he can ONLY fight Welterweights for it to be a legitimate fight and win for floyd's legacy, when he himself is not really a welterweight compared to the rest of the welterweights...

At Welterweight Floyd fights at a Physical Disadvantage every fight, because he is coming in at the welterweight limit and other fighters are coming in as Middleweights...!

I am pretty sure if Floyd wanted to fight middleweights, he would rather fight for a middleweight title rather than a welterweight title.

Where he suppose to be fighting 147 pound fighters not 165 pounds Fighters posing as 147 pound fighters....


But People say all he has to fight a real WW and nobody else..!!!
Like Floyd comes in at 160 like every other fighter does at Welterweight.

FLOYD IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT COMPARED TO OTHER WELTERWEIGHTS.

If you are truly interested in Welterweights (147 pounders) fighting welterweights...then you should be disgusted at the fact that all the supposedly Welterweights in the WW division all fight around 160 when the fight starts. when the limit they should be at is 147.


DO you get the point now.?

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My Answer to your question.

I have no problem with floyd fighting Other WW's...(Cotto,berto,etc)

The problem I have is that People saying he can ONLY fight Welterweights for it to be a legitimate fight and win for floyd's legacy, when he himself is not really a welterweight compared to the rest of the welterweights...

At Welterweight Floyd fights at a Physical Disadvantage every fight, because he is coming in at the welterweight limit and other fighters are coming in as Middleweights...!

I am pretty sure if Floyd wanted to fight middleweights, he would rather fight for a middleweight title rather than a welterweight title.

Where he suppose to be fighting 147 pound fighters not 165 pounds Fighters posing as 147 pound fighters....


But People say all he has to fight a real WW and nobody else..!!!
Like Floyd comes in at 160 like every other fighter does at Welterweight.

FLOYD IS NOT A NATURAL WELTERWEIGHT COMPARED TO OTHER WELTERWEIGHTS.

If you are truly interested in Welterweights (147 pounders) fighting welterweights...then you should be disgusted at the fact that all the supposedly Welterweights in the WW division all fight around 160 when the fight starts. when the limit they should be at is 147.


DO you get the point now.?

What does "not really a welterweight" mean? In other words, what makes one a welterweight?

[Horus]

I didn't even bother reading your reply because as usual I realised that there was a lot of needless bolding and colouring of font's which meant that your reply was just made yet again to make yourself feel important and intelligent. Plus you probably couldn't explain yourself properly while sucking floyd's ****.

This is what people like you usually do when they can not dispute the argument i presented to them.

I am glad that I completely shut your weak ass argument down. and force you to reply with weak **** like this ...lol

[Horus]

What does "not really a welterweight" mean? In other words, what makes one a welterweight?

first did you understand the point i was trying to get across to you before we change the topic. ?

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first did you understand the point i was trying to get across to you before we change the topic. ?

Absolutely. I don't get it - every time I ask a question or make a statement, i get diverted. This questions speaks directly to the gist of your argument. With that said...

What does "Floyd isn't really a welterweight" mean and - more importantly - how does one become a welter?

[Horus]

i'd like to see him fight welterweights or ABOVE....not below

why?

do you think Mayweather would be the biggest fighter at 140 if he went back down?
because he wouldnt

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

first did you understand the point i was trying to get across to you before we change the topic. ?

The point is he wants to fight at welterweight. Hes fighting at 147 pounds so he should fight the people that are there or atleast someone thats fought at that weight before. JMM hasnt even fought at that weight. He fought at 135 two times and he won 2 very close fights.

[Horus]

Absolutely. I don't get it - every time I ask a question or make a statement, i get diverted. This questions speaks directly to the gist of your argument. With that said...

What does "Floyd isn't really a welterweight" mean and - more importantly - how does one become a welter?

What does "Floyd isn't really a welterweight" mean and - more importantly - how does one become a welter?

Horus response:
"Floyd isn't really a welterweight" COMPARED to the other fighters in the welterweight division.

This is why:
At Welterweight Floyd fights at a Physical Disadvantage every fight, because he is coming in at the welterweight limit and other fighters are coming in as Middleweights...!

I am pretty sure if Floyd wanted to fight middleweights, he would rather fight for a middleweight title rather than a welterweight title.

Where he suppose to be fighting 147 pound fighters not 165 pounds Fighters posing as 147 pound fighters....


Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Margarito, but if he weighs a trim and fit 165 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 147 lb. champion with a straight face?
Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?

Do you see what I am telling you...?

If you are a welterweight then you should not weigh at maximum more than 5 pounds over the Welterweight limit come fight night.

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What does "Floyd isn't really a welterweight" mean and - more importantly - how does one become a welter?

Horus response:
"Floyd isn't really a welterweight" COMPARED to the other fighters in the welterweight division.

This is why:
At Welterweight Floyd fights at a Physical Disadvantage every fight, because he is coming in at the welterweight limit and other fighters are coming in as Middleweights...!

I am pretty sure if Floyd wanted to fight middleweights, he would rather fight for a middleweight title rather than a welterweight title.

Where he suppose to be fighting 147 pound fighters not 165 pounds Fighters posing as 147 pound fighters....


Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Margarito, but if he weighs a trim and fit 165 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 147 lb. champion with a straight face?
Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?

Do you see what I am telling you...?

Yes...but you STILL aren't answering the question. What do you constitute as a welterweight? How can you write all that and fail to answer a question so simple? I don't want to hear about boxing's ailments and your critique of the weight system. I want to know what you think is a welterweight. And this not only speaks to the gist of your point, it also would do volumes for the rest of this debate going forward. Do you understand that? I feel like I'm going in circles here lol.