Dawson Hoping Hopkins is Next After Tarver Rematch

[Walt Liquor]

You know what the pecking order is though. Hopkins is THE man AND money at LHW. its Cloud>Dawson>Hopkins. If Hopkins TRULY doesnt want to fight Dawson, kills the options, then Dawson, in MY opinion has 2 options, stick to LHW and fight either Johnson or Cloud, or move down to SMW and take on Kessler, Taylor or maybe even Pavlik. ****, throw Williams in there too.

But if he does stick to LHW and doesnt fight Cloud or Johnson, then at that point, "the haters" can credibly say he's ducking them.

there is more than 3 fighters at lhw. How bout dianicou, who would probably outbox cloud pretty easily.

[Boxingwizard]

That's just a ****** comment. Hopkins has never received a beating in his entire career, so what makes you think Dawson would be the one to it? Sure, say Dawson could win and that Hopkins could lose similar to how he did against Taylor or Calzaghe, but to say hopkins would receive a beating is just plain ignorant. Even at 44, hopkins is much to smart and craft to ever get beat up. He could lose on points, make it an ugly close fight, but not a beating.

It's not a ****** comment, because anything can happen in boxing, especially when Hopkins is 44 years old. To say that Hopkins at 44 is still at the top of his class and can beat anyone in LHW or SMW is ignorant. You're clearly overestimating Hopkins ability to fight on at 44, and if you watched the video, he's not really motivated to continue fighting because he's wealthy.

[ИATAS]

Dawson-Johnson II would happen before Dawson-Cloud in my opinion. I just don't see HBO having much interest in Cloud he hasn't beaten anyone notable. Just like Froch-Taylor situation.

ok that's fine, but Dawson will be stripped of his IBF belt if he choses not to.

I'm not totally sure HBO or Showtime wouldn't want to air Cloud/Dawson. I think if either network has seen any film on Cloud, they would definitely (or at least should) be interested. He's a very exciting fighter and would force Tarver to fight.

A rematch with Johnson would be great, but in all honesty, I think there would be more fireworks against Cloud....Johnson sadly appears to be fading a bit (didn't look that good against Judah imo).

[ИATAS]

It's not a ****** comment, because anything can happen in boxing, especially when Hopkins is 44 years old. To say that Hopkins at 44 is still at the top of his class and can beat anyone in LHW or SMW.

Yes it is a ****** comment because Hopkins has never received a beating in his entire career, has fantastic defense and has show that his age has not effected him a great deal. Dawson struggled to beat Glen Johnson and nearly lost. Hopkins is ranked #3 pound 4 pound in the world. Dawson is not ranked top 10.

Now again, this isn't to say Dawson WOULDN'T win against hopkins, it's just a silly conclusion to reach that hopkins would receive a beating for the reasons mentioned above.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Dog, I'll tell you right now there is no way in hell Dawson will ever be a defensive genius like hopkins, it's just not in him. That's not a knock on him but hopkins has one of the greatest defenses of all time. It's up there with the greats.

Revisit a green Hopkins when he first came onto the scene, he got hit way more and actually knocked down. Take a look at either of Hopkins/Echcols, Hopkins/Mercado or Hopkins Jones, he was no where near the defensive genius he is now. Dawson is slowly making defensive adjustments, and is becoming a more patient fighter. I'm not saying he will become as good defensively as Hopkins, but its no where near out of the question. The many is only 27 years old.

Whenever the fight is signed I'll bet you everything you got.

Sold

Let's not talk about if he should have been this or not because that's neither here nor there, the point is that he is the mandatory now and has been for a while.

As i said, this is a fight that i actually want to see, i brought up that point to show you how worthless these organizations are getting and the fact that Cloud didn't take a hard path to get the title shot, he beat up an old war horse and now hes the mandatory for the IBF. Now if you look at Dawson, he took the hard way up. His win over Eric Harding( who was ranked at 10 by the ring magazine at the time Dawson beat him) remains better than anything Cloud has done so far. With that being said, i do think Cloud posses a threat to Dawson because his power makes it intriguing, but that's all he has. He has one way of winning.

Listen, Dawson could and should win the fight against Cloud. I just want Dawson to do what's right and fight his mandatory who's been waiting for him. If Dawson takes out Cloud, he'll get major props from me. ****, I'll give him major props for just taking the fight (I for one actually like when fighters take care of their mandatories as well as clean house). I'm tired of guys going after all the big and old names, do whats right which is clean house. Dawson is young and if he stays at light heavy and cleans house like he should, the big fights will come to him.

He will fight Cloud, because he has no other option. In fact if Cloud is read to take the fight after Dawson beats Tarver in the rematch( which Darkstar has informed that hes not) then that fight should come after wards, but of course Ive heard rumors that Cloud wants Woods for an IBF eliminator.

[Boxingwizard]

Yes it is a ****** comment because Hopkins has never received a beating in his entire career, has fantastic defense and has show that his age has not effected him a great deal. Dawson struggled to beat Glen Johnson and nearly lost. Hopkins is ranked #3 pound 4 pound in the world. Dawson is not ranked top 10.

Now again, this isn't to say Dawson WOULDN'T win against hopkins, it's just a silly conclusion to reach that hopkins would receive a beating for the reasons mentioned above.

I only exaggerated when I said Dawson would give Hopkins a beating, and you never know styles make fights, Hopkins does not fight like Glen Johnson. Tarver beat Johnson, but Dawson gave Tarver a beating. As for his age not affecting him, you need to watch Hopkins/Eastmen and his two fights against Jermain Taylor.

[ИATAS]

but of course Ive heard rumors that Cloud wants Woods for an IBF eliminator.

Cloud's last fight was an IBF eliminator and made him a mandatory to fight Dawson, so that piece of information is logically impossible.

Revisit a green Hopkins when he first came onto the scene, he got hit way more and actually knocked down. Take a look at either of Hopkins/Echcols, Hopkins/Mercado or Hopkins Jones, he was no where near the defensive genius he is now. Dawson is slowly making defensive adjustments, and is becoming a more patient fighter. I'm not saying he will become as good defensively as Hopkins, but its no where near out of the question. The many is only 27 years old.

Come on, Hopkins was more offensive minded back then which was why he was hit more but he still showed he still had great defense. Look at his fight against Glen Johnson for example he didn't get hit. Sure, Dawson can improve his defense and he's young but let's be real here, he cannot achieve an ATG status on defense (or else he would have showed much better defense by now). It's kind of a silly & pointless thing to talk about anyway lets move on

[ИATAS]

I only exaggerated when I said Dawson would give Hopkins a beating

Thanks, I just wanted you to admit/acknowledge it.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Yes it is a ****** comment because Hopkins has never received a beating in his entire career, has fantastic defense and has show that his age has not effected him a great deal. Dawson struggled to beat Glen Johnson and nearly lost. Hopkins is ranked #3 pound 4 pound in the world. Dawson is not ranked top 10.

Now again, this isn't to say Dawson WOULDN'T win against hopkins, it's just a silly conclusion to reach that hopkins would receive a beating for the reasons mentioned above.

I don't think its out of the question for Bernard to receive a beating here. Hes 44 years old and there comes a time when an old legend just miscalculates badly and takes on the wrong kind of opponent. Just look at Ali/Holmes or Leonard/Norris. Not to say it would be that bad, but Dawson is not the kind of fighter that lets up and hes a huge light heavyweight. Hes not fighting Taylor or Calzaghe. Also, i don't think rankings has anything to do with it. I don't think Hopkins was ranked in the top 10 when he beat Trinidad, who at the time was number one i believe.

[KingTito]

I'd like to see that fight.