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  • Bhopreign
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    #11
    Originally posted by koboy
    Because of PBF's safety first approach to boxing, he picked Hatton because he knew that he could beat him easily. Which, in turn, falsely gave an impression that Hatton was a great and worthy opponent.

    Does Hatton really belong with Pacquiao, Marquez or even Darchinyan in the ring or did PBF, because of his well managed selection of opponents, overhype Hatton to the point that he is now fighting the #1 P4P fighter?
    What exactly are you trying to say, Id be more than glad to speak intelligent about this.

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    • S.G.
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      #12
      Originally posted by koboy
      I'm not arguing with how great Mayweather is, he is the best of his generation and I believe that he could beat anyone and everyone, if he chose to. He is one of the smartest, in and out of the ring, and one of the most highly adaptable fighters ever. I'm talking about how his career was managed, which is kudos to him, because you always have to have your best interest in mind, especially in a dangerous sport like this. But I believe that after the 1st Jose Luis Castillo fight, they went into safety mode. Compare his fights pre and post JLC and compare the comp, it's remarkable.

      Even Steward says that Floyd knew that he could beat Oscar and Hatton and hyped the fight to the point where people clamored for it.

      Before JLC 1, he was dominating undefeated fighters. After JLC 1, he fought Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, Oscar and Hatton, although undefeated, had to go up in weight to fight him.
      i see what you're saying and there may be something behind Floyd's level of competition post-JLC... but you gotta remember he rematched JLC directly afterwards and won (without question this time) and i reckon the fact that he's out of his comfort zone at WW and has to give up many physical advantages is the reason he has been picking and choosing a little more conservatively

      and my previous post was just making the point that the onus behind Oscar De La Hoya and Hatton's maybe unrealistic hype was on them and their teams, not on Floyd Mayweather... though maybe you could say he took advantage of it depending on your perspective

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      • koboy
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bhopreign
        What exactly are you trying to say, Id be more than glad to speak intelligent about this.
        That's better. Why don't you tell me why you think it's ****** and we can either agree or disagree. Or should I just say "Reported for ******ity" at all your post?

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        • koboy
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          #14
          Originally posted by S.G.
          i see what you're saying and there may be something behind Floyd's level of competition post-JLC... but you gotta remember he rematched JLC directly afterwards and won (without question this time) and i reckon the fact that he's out of his comfort zone at WW and has to give up many physical advantages is the reason he has been picking and choosing a little more conservatively

          and my previous post was just making the point that the onus behind Oscar De La Hoya and Hatton's maybe unrealistic hype was on them and their teams, not on Floyd Mayweather... though maybe you could say he took advantage of it depending on your perspective
          Nice post. Do you think that Hatton deserves to fight Pacquiao or did the hype, which their own teams might have very well created, launched him Ricky into this position?

          My point is not about Mayweather, but about how deserving Hatton is. BTW, you could also argue this about Manny's P4P ranking, but that's for another thread. You think Hatton will prove he deserves to be fighting Manny or will he be exposed as PBF's indirect hype job?

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          • koboy
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            #15
            Originally posted by mickey malone
            You have a point.. Clever promoting and all that.. Hattons style was made for Floyd & he proved it.. I suppose the fact Hatton was unbeaten and had KTFO of most his opponents had nothing to do with it??
            Granted, but Hatton really didn't impress at 147, so why did Floyd fight him and not a Cotto or a Mosley?

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            • Bhopreign
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              #16
              Originally posted by koboy
              That's better. Why don't you tell me why you think it's ****** and we can either agree or disagree. Or should I just say "Reported for ******ity" at all your post?
              Well you didnt explain yourself, nobody really responded to your "theory" because they probably didnt understand what you were trying to say.

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                #17
                Originally posted by koboy
                Nice post. Do you think that Hatton deserves to fight Pacquiao or did the hype, which their own teams might have very well created, launched him Ricky into this position?

                My point is not about Mayweather, but about how deserving Hatton is. BTW, you could also argue this about Manny's P4P ranking, but that's for another thread. You think Hatton will prove he deserves to be fighting Manny or will he be exposed as PBF's indirect hype job?
                i think Hatton has been engineered as a cashcow from very early on in his career

                however he's still the legitimate top dog at 140lbs; a title that Pacquiao wants, which in my book means he is worthy of the fight

                not to mention his ability to sell is warranty to fight just about whomever he feels to in this sport. Boxing has always been half sport half business

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                • koboy
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  Well you didnt explain yourself, nobody really responded to your "theory" because they probably didnt understand what you were trying to say.
                  SG, Mickey Malone, and QuCongee all did and they responded with proper opinions. Only you and Mr. Crust didn't and I couldn't fathom why because it's all there in black and white.

                  If you didn't understand what I was saying, why were you so quick to respond about how ****** it was. I think you understood it, but just couldn't agree with it and responded with a childish remark.

                  Anyway, I don't really want this to be about you and me. If you don't understand it, there are other topics in forum that might suit your liking.

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                  • Roger Mellie
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by koboy
                    SG, Mickey Malone, and QuCongee all did and they responded with proper opinions. Only you and Mr. Crust didn't and I couldn't fathom why because it's all there in black and white.

                    If you didn't understand what I was saying, why were you so quick to respond about how ****** it was. I think you understood it, but just couldn't agree with it and responded with a childish remark.

                    Anyway, I don't really want this to be about you and me. If you don't understand it, there are other topics in forum that might suit your liking.
                    The moment I read Darchinyan I nearly fell off my chair laughing.I thought the initial post was that ****** that I just assumed that it was more,'Hatton is ****' spam.

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                    • boxasmash
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                      #20
                      darchinyan! lol made me chuckle

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