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  • pistol whip
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    #301
    Originally posted by youngswish23
    mayweather jr should fight paul williams at 147 or 154. height dont matter the best should fight the best..

    Id like to see it but id rather see Paul rule the Middleweight division.

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    • QUISQUEYA
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      #302
      Originally posted by youngswish23
      mayweather jr should fight paul williams at 147 or 154. height dont matter the best should fight the best..
      Is Mayweather the best or is Pacquiao the best?

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        #303
        Originally posted by Al Coholic
        A Mosley fight would probably make Floyd more than a JMM fight, so why is he choosing JMM instead of Mosley?
        Tune up fight for Mosley or by PBF beating JMM on a clear win will entice Pac to face him. Its all about the money for him now.

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          #304
          Originally posted by Al Coholic
          A Mosley fight would probably make Floyd more than a JMM fight, so why is he choosing JMM instead of Mosley?
          Al,

          I'm not sure that you are well-informed on this. Mosley is not the commercially viable fighter that you may think he is.

          Have you seen SSM's numbers?

          Also, you haven't quite addressed the fact that Mosley turned down a Mayweather offer at 147. can you please do that for me? Thanks in advance.

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            #305
            Originally posted by loui_ludwig
            Tune up fight for Mosley or by PBF beating JMM on a clear win will entice Pac to face him. Its all about the money for him now.
            BS. Floyd knows Pac is going to fight him if he beats Hatton, Mayweather is being a ***** wanting to fight at 147 but not wanting to fight the competition at 147. He's a chicken that is scared of losing his 0.

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              #306
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Sure he has but only on his terms so he gets all the money and has all the advantage in the fight.

              I don't really think Floyd is scared of these great fighters but i do think he is such a selfish ***ing pig that he lowballs people to the point where they have no other choice but to say *** off!
              Pistol,

              Then please explain why the following fighters all made their career-high paydays vs. Floyd:

              Arturo Gatti
              Zab Judah
              Carlos Baldomir
              Oscar Delahoya
              Ricky Hatton


              Again, I encourage you guys to stick to facts. We are not women. We must make assessments based on facts and not pure emotion.

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                #307
                Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                Al,

                I'm not sure that you are well-informed on this. Mosley is not the commercially viable fighter that you may think he is.

                Have you seen SSM's numbers?

                Also, you haven't quite addressed the fact that Mosley turned down a Mayweather offer at 147. can you please do that for me? Thanks in advance.
                Last time i checked JMM numbers and Mosleys are around the same, Mosley did not want to fight Floyd, but it's not just about Mosley. Floyd won't fight any top WW even though he insists on fighting at that weight. If he's not a WW then don't fight in that division.

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                • pistol whip
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                  #308
                  Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                  Pistol,

                  Then please explain why the following fighters all made their career-high paydays vs. Floyd:

                  Arturo Gatti
                  Zab Judah
                  Carlos Baldomir
                  Oscar Delahoya
                  Ricky Hatton


                  Again, I encourage you guys to stick to facts. We are not women. We must make assessments based on facts and not pure emotion.

                  Carlos and Zab were never big draws or even accomplished fighters at that point so whatever scraps Floyd thru them was more than they could make fighting nobody alphabet champions. Come on Baldomir made a whole million dollars for that fight woo hooo big money.


                  Gatti,Oscar,Hatton were the draws in those fights so it should actually be said that those fighters fans generated the most money for Floyd and not the other way around.
                  Last edited by pistol whip; 04-12-2009, 12:46 PM.

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                    #309
                    Originally posted by Al Coholic
                    BS. Floyd knows Pac is going to fight him if he beats Hatton, Mayweather is being a ***** wanting to fight at 147 but not wanting to fight the competition at 147. He's a chicken that is scared of losing his 0.
                    Al,

                    Why do you seem so fixated on "competition at 147" when boxing has clearly moved away from that type of rigidity?

                    Oscar has fought at 147 to 154 to 160 back to 154 back to 147.
                    P-Dub is fighting from 147 to 160
                    Shane has vacillated between 154 and 147.
                    Pacquiao has fought in 3 divisions in the past year.
                    Hopkins fought Pavlik at 170 catchweight.
                    Jones fought Trinidad at 170 catchweight.
                    Winky fought Hopkins at 170 catchweight.
                    Pavlik fought Taylor at 166 catchweight.


                    Many of the biggest fights seem to be happening without regard to the conventional "weight classes" structure. Please share with me why your requirements seem a bit narrow to me.

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                      #310
                      I think it will happen at 140 if it happens or at a catchweight of 142 thats how i see the negotiations playing out. Its not a ***** move from anyones camp. Negotiations like this play out more money and everyone knows Mayweather is all about the money.Floyd can easily make 140 the guy is always in shape. Damn I hope this fight happens.

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