Hopkins grapples more than Hatton...

[pesticid]

Glen Johnson, Robert Allen, Antwun Echols, Syd Vanderpool, Keith Holmes, Felix Trinidad, Carl Daniels, Morrade Hakkar, William Joppy, Oscar De La Hoya?

I think hopkins was a bit green for roy jones, imo.

Anyways, what's your point? You admit he wasn't grappling nearly as much back then right? If you agree, then your thread is ****, he's in his 40's. Hatton is prime.

And who did Hatton grapple besides Urango and Collazo?

[ИATAS]

And who did Hatton grapple besides Urango and Collazo?

uh maybe that one guy, the guy he made his fame off of. hmm tszyu?

Get real he grapples in every fight, mayweather, etc etc etc. just go to boxrec and pull up a name, put the fight in the dvd player and watch him grab

[pesticid]

Hatton went on his shield against Floyd. Hopkins after all his talk tried to survive and punk his way out against Zaghe. He looked like a bitchhh ready to quit.

[pesticid]

uh maybe that one guy, the guy he made his fame off of. hmm tszyu?

I already knew you would go there. Kostya held just as much cause Kostya's game on the inside wasn't good enough and Kostya prides himself at being very strong and physical.

[MoneyMayFan]

Believe me. B-hop has no quit in him
You talking out yo ass

[ИATAS]

Hatton went on his shield against Floyd. Hopkins after all his talk tried to survive and punk his way out against Zaghe. He looked like a bitchhh ready to quit.

so getting knocked into the ring post and falling flat on his back wasn't embarrassing? lmao, ok man.

[Darkstar]

adamek should have taken the offer and I bet the talks are still in process. Hopkins sent ONE offer and adamek says, "no." Why wouldn't adamek have a counter offer?

Adamek = larger version of pavlik.

Wrong. That offer was a boxing tactic 101. If you dont want to be in the ring with them, offer so low on money that it becomes a joke. Exactly what Hopkins did. Not one person in the boxing circles has said anything otherwise.

Okay Adamek is a bigger version of Pavlik. So Pavlik sucks now? Well then there goes some of "B-Hops" shine. Beating up another smaller fighter doesnt do much.

Adamek is around 35 pounds bigger then Pavlik. Hopkins wants no part of guys his size. That weak **** he gets away with wont fly when the tables are just slightly reversed.

[ИATAS]

Kostya held just as much

so you admit hatton grappled?

[ИATAS]

Wrong. That offer was a boxing tactic 101. If you dont want to be in the ring with them, offer so low on money that it becomes a joke. Exactly what Hopkins did. Not one person in the boxing circles has said anything otherwise.

Oh ok, I guess you're involved in the negotiating process. Thanks for all your inside wisdom.

Okay Adamek is a bigger version of Pavlik. So Pavlik sucks now?

When did I say pavlik sucks? Pavlik is one of my favorite fighters. I simply meant he fights the same type of fight, they have similar styles.

Well then there goes some of "B-Hops" shine. Beating up another smaller fighter doesnt do much.

See above.

Adamek is around 35 pounds bigger then Pavlik. Hopkins wants no part of guys his size. That weak **** he gets away with wont fly when the tables are just slightly reversed.

Ok when the fight gets announced to being signed I'll bet you all of your points hopkins wins.

BTW, never read into PRESS RELEASES. That IS part of negotating. how many times did we read the pacquiao hatton fight was off, or pacquiao de la hoya, etc.? A bunch of times. The reason is because one camp isn't happy with an offer, so they go to the media saying they want more or the fights off or whatever, the other camp then responds. Boxing 101.

[pesticid]

so you admit hatton grappled?

Oh yeah I admit, I never said he didn't but Hopkins grappled just as much in his fights and he ran quite a bit even against 2nd tier opposition like Howard Eastman, but let's forget the running, the talks and the records, this is one on one Hattons vs Hopkins at grappling. You can't claim Hopkins grapplins as skill and Hatton's grappling as ugliness. There is a doubdle standard here and that's why I made the thread.