David Haye Slams The "Three Fight" Klitschko Deal

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

LMAO @ cowards calling real men cowards in these threads, btw.

[moochi]

Why didn't Haye take the same route as Thompson, Povetkin, and JC Gomez to a title shot, by defeating another contender?

His shortcut has a price.

well said. Haye is too much up himself and for some strange reason thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread.

[Dave Rado]

I don't think he said that. Not every error on this board needs you to correct it, let alone the errors that aren't really errors.

What he said was wrong. He said: "Nothing wrong with Lennox getting rematch right away but when Wlad does he's a coward".

Lennox didn't have a two successive rematch clause.

Christ, Haye stated that he WANTED to take them both down, so what's the problem?

The fact that he can't fight any mandatory defences in between the fights with the Klitschkos, which would almost certainly mean being stripped of the belts, even if he won all three fights. That's my only real objection, but it's a major one.

Now **** all the whining about this contract.

It's not your thread and you don't need to read it if you don't want to. I have a right to respond to people who make claims that I think are inaccurate or who I think are misinformed. It's a group discussion, and no one is forcing you to take part in it. You've expressed your opinion, which I mostly respect: others have a right to express theirs.

He's pulled off a pretty decent coup. The shot he craved has been granted. The fight should be a fun occasion, no?

I agree with that bit.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Have no idea why I'm actually doing this but here goes,

What he said was wrong. He said: "Nothing wrong with Lennox getting rematch right away but when Wlad does he's a coward".

Lennox didn't have a two successive rematch clause.

Well, I hope you're getting a wage for this, Dave. Maybe you can tip me on how to get paid doing it. I already feel like I should be after about 12 pointed contributions on the subject.

Anyway, FWIW. He didn't say Lennox ever had a 2 successive rematch clause. He left his meaning slightly open. I interpreted it to mean he thinks 2 rematches instead of 1 isn't that big a deal and people should stop looking for any excuse to **** on a Klitschko. A natural pedant might lean to a less forgiving interpretation, though. AT least he isn't calling fighters cowards, hey?

The fact that he can't fight any mandatory defences in between the fights with the Klitschkos, which would almost certainly mean being stripped of the belts, even if he won all three fights. That's my only real objection, but it's a major one.

Not really. Those fights would be bigger than belts - if the first one goes off ****, it will raise the roof on the division. As long as there's a title on the line, it doesn't really matter. The winner of the 3 fight series (if it goes to 3 fights) will be placed to end up fighting the new owners of the stripped titles anyway, which likely sets up another exciting fight involving another rising, rated heavyweight like Povetkin.

It's not your thread and you don't need to read it if you don't want to. I have a right to respond to people who make claims that I think are inaccurate or who I think are misinformed. It's a group discussion, and no one is forcing you to take part in it. You've expressed your opinion, which I mostly respect: others have a right to express theirs.

You really think people are "entitled" to call Wladimir a coward and keep spamming the same inane partylines without retort? Well, I suppose they are. But fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that. If that's gonna be how it is, I'll make that composite and spam it to death every time I see the subject come up until every morbid ass obsessing over the contract is sick of the sight of it.

It's not my thread? I said it was full of whiny macho wannabes who need to pull their fingers out of their arses and GET REAL, not that it was mine.

Pardon me if I expect better of the hardcore boxing fan than to be taken in by the kind of romance you'd expect a random punter to fall for.

I agree with that bit.

Oh, well. It's something. The negotiation period bored me to ****, I was just waiting for the thing to finally be done, like I knew it would be, because I knew the fight would get made, because Haye knows this is the best shot he's ever gonna get at being heavyweight champ, whatever the split or rematch clauses.

So. You wanna break out the party poppers, or shall I?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

this is why nobody has any respect for any of your threads or posts.

Funny, looked on point to me.

All credit to Haye, he really compromised himself to make this fight happen just to get his chance to shut up the Klitschkos. Time will tell if it was a huge mistake or the making of a superstar.

What did he compromise? He had nothing to compromise in the first place.

Shut them up? Who was doing the talking?

How can it be a mistake? What does he lose even if he gets KTFO? He had no intention of fighting his way to a shot, anyway. Watch the Barrett fight. Look at the nerves on Haye right before it, they're clearly visible. There's a reason why. He knew that his shot rested on that 1 fight. This was how it was planned all along. You knock these 2 bums on the head, I'll set up a fight against a decent name of minimal risk and KHTFO, then me and you get it on. Remember that?


This **** gets more and more disingenuous by the page.

[joe strong]

1 rematch is ok but 3 is a joke.wlad should get the rematch not vitali but this is no surprise because these guys have been fighting each others battles for years.if one loses the other comes to avenge the loss.too bad it was guys like sanders,Byrd & purrity.I said it months ago that Europeans hold on to the titles anyway they can & the klits prove it with 3 rematch clauses.I don't understand how you klit fans can like having 2 champs.it's terrible for boxing.the division sucks! I love heavyweights but it doesn't look to bright of a future.when the top contenders are guys like haye(glorified davarryl williamson),dimitrenko(who hasn't beat anyone),arreola(he's like frans Botha)the division sucks.haye stands to make good $ off the klits if he wins but I don't think haye can take a wlad jab.if he thought Barrett hit hard he's in for a surprise.if haye wins who wants to see 3 more fights? Maybe 1 vs wlad & another to unify with vitali but 3 fights in a row.povetkin is the best contender out there but that doesn't say much.I miss the great fights if the late 80's & 90's.the 2000's have kind of ******.there is no one in the near future to be excited about.the klits are good but not great.with wlads amateur background he could have been great but instead he was protected for far too long coming up.he never fought a credible opponent until he fought Byrd.he shouldve been fighting guys like byrd when he was 18-0 not when he was 31-1.he was fighting the best in amateur so he should have stepped up earlier & maybe he wouldve got more recognition.povetkin is doing what the klits should have done & that's step up the compitition earlier in their careers.vitalis only big name fighter he had was a loss to lewis & Byrd had a decent name but was not a $ maker.wlads biggest name he fought was Rahman & Byrd.too bad Rahman is done at 36.too many big fights with big punchers.the klits will never get the recognition some think they deserve.vitali is younger than Rahman,tua,ruiz,etc.he could have made a legendary name for himself if he fought those guys earlier but the Byrd fiasco killed his reputation in the states & that's where the big boys are not in Europe.

[joe strong]

I meant to say vitali is older than tua,Rahman & is 4 or 5 years apart from the greats like Tyson,lewis,Holyfield.if he was so good how come he only fought lewis when lewis was set to retire? He couldve fought them all but when he surrendered in battle to Byrd he lost respect.you get respect by overcoming the obsticles in your way no matter how difficult.many fighters fought with broken bones & won just like vitali could have vs Byrd.any of you canadians online should be proud on April 9th it marks the anniversary of the vimy ridge victory during worldwar 1.the British & French tried unsuccessfully to take the ridge for 6 months & lost hundreds of thousands of brave men but the canadians were able to take the ridge in ONE day...I'm proud to be Canadian!

[Carlisle]

Two rematch clause

"Ill fight you but only with TWO REMATCH CLAUSES." What a coward.

I don't think he said that. Not every error on this board needs you to correct it, let alone the errors that aren't really errors. You can be selective with that ****. And you are allowed to take a break from posting to take a piss, guy. Crack a smile, have a wank, watch some fights, something, anything.





Christ, Haye stated that he WANTED to take them both down, so what's the problem? Now he's being held to it. He did a deal with K2, not Wladimir Klitschko.

This contract makes Wlad a *****? Then fasttracking because he's scared of getting KTFO before he gets his shot makes Haye a *****.



Now fuck all the whining about this contract. If it doesn't cease, I'll make a composite post of every point I've made so far on the subject and spam it repeatedly Horus stylee in every whiny contract thread that gets started between now and June 20th to save myself the bother of rewriting the same **** 1,267 different ways like some of the pundits here like to.


David got what he wanted, now he has to deliver.

Time for the focus to shift to the fight build-up.

[Carlisle]

Haye will whup Klits 3 times and become king of Heavies

After Haye whups Klits 3 times no one can question he's the champion and that the Klits are fraud.

"Ill fight you but only with TWO REMATCH CLAUSES." What a coward.

[Derranged]

You can't blame Haye for being mad.

Honestly its getting harder to be a fan of Wladimir... The string of recently boring fights, now pulling some **** like this?

He better put one hell of a performance.