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Originally posted by J.B.moneY. View Postyea dude, i'm not a pacquiao hater at all, i enjoy watching manny perform, i'm not much of a fan of freddie roach, but thats another story...and like i said if ricky loses he only loses to the p4p kings....no shame in that...i just believe ricky can make this a competitive fight...but we will see
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Originally posted by J.B.moneY. View Postyea dude, i'm not a pacquiao hater at all, i enjoy watching manny perform, i'm not much of a fan of freddie roach, but thats another story...and like i said if ricky loses he only loses to the p4p kings....no shame in that...i just believe ricky can make this a competitive fight...but we will see
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[QUOTE=Benny Leonard;5015264]Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
He fired Billy after Lazcano, right?
Urango and Castillo were the fights that led up to Mayweather Jr. so which fights did you notice a decline before Floyd?
Collazo fight he came in to bulked up so he said he wouldn't make the same mistake twice when he went back up to 147 to fight Floyd.
I do agree that he shouldn't be blowing up in weight and drinking.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-04-2009, 02:58 AM.
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Originally posted by talip bin osman View Postlazcano hurt ur boy grustler... remember?
hatton wobbled over and advanced towards lazcano lookin to clinch...
the ref played around & when he was through, he made hatton tie his shoelaces!
lazcano is no defensive master & im not saying lazcano won that fight... point is, if lazcano can hurt hatton why cant MP? can u name any elite fighter lazcano has beaten, and can u name MP's? can u tell me who had been competing in the elite level longer?
u keep on criticizing MP's defense, u think hatton is any better?
Manny was beating up on Oscar for 8 Rd's and didn't KO or Knock him down? I think Manny is a GREAT fighter but I have seen him hurt/wobbled and dazed on his feet so even though he is fast he still can be touched & Hatton will touch him good. I have NOTHING against Manny Pacquiao as a person or fighter. I'm just using my observation of both their styles & I just give the edge to HATTON. With that said I think Manny has a chance but not too sure he will beat Hatton and that's not from a bias perspective.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-04-2009, 03:13 AM.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostTrue dat. Lazcano did hurt Hatton but remember Lazcano was fighting at 140 and Manny is moving up to 140 & who knows if Manny even hits harder than Lazcano? Manny couldn't even knock out Juan Manuel Marquez and he knocked him down a total of 4 times in two fights and both were still close debatable and competitive? To me that is not power, power is when you hit a guy twice flush with power shots & KO his ass. Inorder for Manny to KO Hatton, he will have to exchange punches with a puncher like Hatton & I don't see Manny being able to dominate him in that department.
Manny was beating up on Oscar for 8 Rd's and didn't finish KO or Knock him down? I think Manny is a GREAT fighter but I have seen him hurt/wobbled and dazed on his feet so even though he is fast he still can be touched & Hatton will touch him good. I have NOTHING against Manny Pacquiao as a person or fighter. I'm just using my observation of both their styles & I just give the edge to HATTON. With that said I think Manny has a chance but not too sure he will beat Hatton and that's not from a bias perspective.
as much as im a fan of MP, i am also being an objective spectator here like u...
anyway, i agree that pacquiao's power is relatively weaker now than it was when he was still @112-130... but as good as an observer as u are, u probably noticed that it was not power that destroyed ODLH and david diaz...
diaz, ODLH, larios & solis said it themselves... it wasnt really the power... if u still remember erik morales also said after their 2nd fight that he went down bcoz of exhaustion rather than the sting of MP's punches...
exhaustion from what? from accumulated punches of course! what do u think man?
the ones who gave MP trouble in the elite level were patient counterpunchers...is hatton a better counter puncher than jmm?
is hatton patient enough like morales to wait for MP to commit then make him pay?
those looking for pacquiao to engage with them in a slugfest found themselves eating a steady dose of cleto reyes themselves...
they were expecting pacquiao the brawler but to their horror pacquiao offered speed & movement instead...
is hattons defense in any way better than morales, jmm or barrera to avoid MP's leads?
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morales did not beat pacquiao by counter-punching he beat pac by constant pressure and a solid jab to get close on pac.....sounds like what ricky does imo
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