Why didn't Mayweather fight these fighters?

[Horus]

cotto fans got owned in this thread

[RL_GMA]

All his titles at the lower weights are great accolades...but that was like 4 years ago. What has he done since moving to WW? At WW is where he made his name and claim as the #1 fighter in the world. The problem is that he retired right when he reached the top. Some would say he bowed out on top to remain undefeated, but that would only hold weight if he'd taken on the tough challenges at that division.

At the end of the day though, there's always going to be an argument of who he should've fought vs who he's already fought. But it is also foolish to say that Floyd has fought every fighter that he COULD'VE fought that would've generated a huge buzz of money. But I don't think we've seen the last of him either, so now is his shot.

[Benny Leonard]

All his titles at the lower weights are great accolades...but that was like 4 years ago. What has he done since moving to WW? At WW is where he made his name and claim as the #1 fighter in the world. The problem is that he retired right when he reached the top. Some would say he bowed out on top to remain undefeated, but that would only hold weight if he'd taken on the tough challenges at that division.

At the end of the day though, there's always going to be an argument of who he should've fought vs who he's already fought. But it is also foolish to say that Floyd has fought every fighter that he COULD'VE fought that would've generated a huge buzz of money. But I don't think we've seen the last of him either, so now is his shot.

His legacy lacks big time at 147+. But, I'm of the opinion that Floyd moved up for one reason: To get to O$CAR...and if Shane wanted to dance, we can add Two to the mix (but Shane had to go to the dentist).
He wanted HOF Names and Money and wanted to cash out. That's what I think. The way he started to fight at 147 was more about survival and getting by than actually proving he was the best (like he used to do below 147).

I don't however think he would have faced someone like Williams but I do think if he still was hungry (or maybe younger), he would have at least fought Cotto.

I think he was burning out and he wanted to cash out. Hatton was just unfinished business because he wanted his scalp after Ricky beat one of his idols, Kostya Tszyu.

[2quick2slick]

.Paul Willams
.Winky Wright
.Migeul Cotto
.Antonio Margarito
.Cory Spinks
.Acelino Fretias
.Kosta Tyzu
.Shane Mosely
.Joel Casamyor

At one time or another or another all these fights could of been but weren't, and some nearly were.

Interesting very interesting!! that Mayweather never fought none of these!

Coz he's a ****ing cherry picker. 'Always have and always be.

[RL_GMA]

His legacy lacks big time at 147+. But, I'm of the opinion that Floyd moved up for one reason: To get to O$CAR...and if Shane wanted to dance, we can add Two to the mix (but Shane had to go to the dentist).
He wanted HOF Names and Money and wanted to cash out. That's what I think. The way he started to fight at 147 was more about survival and getting by than actually proving he was the best (like he used to do below 147).

I don't however think he would have faced someone like Williams but I do think if he still was hungry (or maybe younger), he would have at least fought Cotto.

I think he was burning out and he wanted to cash out. Hatton was just unfinished business because he wanted his scalp after Ricky beat one of his idols, Kostya Tszyu.

I agree with you

Money definitely was a huge deal for him to move up (in the case of Oscar). But that alone further tells me that a fight with Mosley or Cotto was and is a risk for him, but the reward IMO would still be worth it. He's proven himself time and time again, but it's only after he became the #1 fighter that he failed to preserve that roll which could've possibly turned him into a household name.

The thing is now there's only 1 fight that'll make mega dollars and it's with Pacquiao. If he does beat Manny, where does that leave him? Retirement? or possibly 2 fights the Boxing world have been waiting to see for years?

His return in a whole this time around is going to answer a lot of questions the skeptics may have about Floyd's legacy. I'm interested to see what his plans may be.

[Ishy Aytan]

.Winky Wright - different weight,and Winky cant negotiate
.Migeul Cotto - Fight hopefully will get made
.Antonio Margarito - Seriously ? Especially now? Never gona happen
.Cory Spinks - Zab whooped his ass already
.Acelino Fretias - Corrales whooped his ass and he always quits
.Kosta Tyzu - Floyd already called him out MANY times,theres videos
.Shane Mosely - Floyd already called him out,Shane had teeth problems
.Joel Casamyor - did anyone wanna see it? He already beat Corrales and Castillo

This has answered the question.

[Ishy Aytan]

Mayweather didn't fight them sure but mainly because they where totally outside his division, might aswell as why he didn't fight Tyson.

Floyd is a Super featherweight, At least four of the people you listed are legitimately light middleweight and above fighters, Williams could fight at Light heavyweight, he's bigger and has longer reach than Calzaghe for example.

Withe the exception of Margacheato and Cotto, not a single one of those you listed are genuinely missed chances.

Good post, these Floyd haters make me laugh every time i read one of their ****ty threads.

They have a serious lack of boxing knowledge.

[Benny Leonard]

I agree with you

Money definitely was a huge deal for him to move up (in the case of Oscar). But that alone further tells me that a fight with Mosley or Cotto was and is a risk for him, but the reward IMO would still be worth it. He's proven himself time and time again, but it's only after he became the #1 fighter that he failed to preserve that roll which could've possibly turned him into a household name.

The thing is now there's only 1 fight that'll make mega dollars and it's with Pacquiao. If he does beat Manny, where does that leave him? Retirement? or possibly 2 fights the Boxing world have been waiting to see for years?

His return in a whole this time around is going to answer a lot of questions the skeptics may have about Floyd's legacy. I'm interested to see what his plans may be.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

The fight was offered to Mosley a few times if you go by Floyd Jr, Roger, and Floyd Sr. Floyd offered the fight twice to Mosley while he was in the lower weight divisions (and before Shane fought Oscar) and then later on when he was fighting at 147, where again, Shane turned it down. Shane needed time off and needed to see a dentist.
However, I'm not sure at which exact point the fight was offered to Shane when he was in the lower weight classes because it also may have been on Shane's mind to get to O$CAR, which is why he flew up to 147.


Cotto: I thought Floyd wanted the fight but it was turned down by Arum? Before the move up to 147 for both.
When Floyd moved up, the fighter Arum wanted to throw at Floyd was Margarito and not Cotto.

If Floyd comes back for Manny, all hell will break loose if he doesn't continue on and fight Cotto. Margarito is finished and his name should never be brought up again. Shane: He had his chance and Floyd would get little credit if he beat him even though Shane just beat Margarito.


I'm not sure on all the behind the scenes details because most lie in the business, especially Arum. Arum was only willing to risk Margarito against Floyd. I don't think Floyd at the time wanted to risk losing to Margarito for low reward before getting to Oscar. That, and he had issues with Arum.
I also don't think he would have fought Williams if he didn't have to; To BIG and low reward for money (even though legacy should mean something to a fighter).


If he comes back and only has one fight, I would rather see it against Cotto for Legacy reasons. If he wants Money, Pac is his answer. If he wants both, Cotto and Pac are his answers.
And Shane is always in the mix.
Still doubt he would fight Paul Williams unless it was a HUGE offer which I doubt would happen.

[Pullcounter]

I agree with you

yep the only reason floyd moved up was to fight oscar

Money definitely was a huge deal for him to move up (in the case of Oscar). But that alone further tells me that a fight with Mosley or Cotto was and is a risk for him, but the reward IMO would still be worth it.

i don't think so. floyd wanted to fight both of them but mosley said he had a toothache and arum would never put his cash cow (cotto) in with floyd without having options on floyd.

He's proven himself time and time again, but it's only after he became the #1 fighter that he failed to preserve that roll which could've possibly turned him into a household name.

once again, as long as arum is cotto's promoter we will never see floyd/cotto. mosley had a toothache that's why that fight didn't happen.

The thing is now there's only 1 fight that'll make mega dollars and it's with Pacquiao. If he does beat Manny, where does that leave him? Retirement? or possibly 2 fights the Boxing world have been waiting to see for years?

it's probably gonna be mosley and pac, the re-retirement, unless cotto becomes a free agent. floyd might fight hatton just for the money.

His return in a whole this time around is going to answer a lot of questions the skeptics may have about Floyd's legacy. I'm interested to see what his plans may be.

definitely, that is, if he does return

[Bhopreign]

Cotto has fought none of those fighters either.