Floyd Mayweather jr's next fights should be........

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  • Pugilistic™
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    #51
    Originally posted by El Dominicano
    Genero Hernandez a great counter puncher (Who was bigger then Floyd) got F'd up by Floyd. Now I'm not saying Genero > JMM because JMM is more skilled but standing from a distance and waiting to counter punch is a big NO NO against Floyd. You can end up like Gatti doing that **** and its even worse when you got no physical advanatages over your opponent. The truth is...its a tune up, don't matter how you spin it
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

    I agree that Floyd would beat Marquez decisively because i feel Marquez is too small to handle Mayweather plus the styles that each fighters bring.

    I just don't agree that Marquez is a tune up. It's an insult to Marquez to call him a tune up.

    Cotto vs Jennings, Margarito vs Johnson and Pavlik vs Rubio are tune ups fights.

    A fighter of Marquez's caliber is not a tune up for anyone simple as.

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    • BoriKua305
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      #52
      Originally posted by Horus


      Ok Let's Compare Miguel Cotto To Juan Manuel Marquez

      Miguel Cotto
      1. Swings wide
      2. Waste Punches
      3. has a weak chin
      4. Can’t stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
      5. Under progressing in the lateral movement department.
      6. Get's hit too easy



      He gets hit too much and swings too wide. and at this level you cannot let top notch athletes hit an average on 20-35 times a round and expect to last long, When you got fighters who have the power to hurt you and knock you out.Margarito prove that.

      For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in their just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
      It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.


      JMM
      Is probably the smartest Mexican boxer since Oscar and I believe he is smarter than a prime Oscar. The guy gets my full respect for some of the things he does in the ring.

      Marquez does two things extremely well.

      1. Fights in rhythm

      Only a few fighters in boxing know how to fight in rhythm. Floyd, Roy, Calzaghe, and JMM. Are some that do it the best.

      What do I mean by fighting in Rhythm?

      There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm.
      • preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer


      The rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

      However JMM like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.

      This is the main reason why JMM usually knocks his opponents out late.
      Because they are not usually aware of when changing his rhythm and takes apart your offense and defense.

      The guy is very smart. This is why Pacquaio had sooo much trouble with him,
      And would have so much trouble with Floyd.


      2. Accuracy


      Offensively JMM," places his shots," he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
      With many other top fighters this is not the case.

      Nothing can replace technical skill in boxing nothing.

      And JMM has allot of technical skill.


      This is why JMM is p4p #2 in the sport and Cotto is not even in the top 10.!!!



      If cotto has a weak chin then Juan manuel marquez chin is worst. Lets see three times in the first pacaman fight he was already down then the next fight he was down 2. I never seen cotto get knocked down multiple times in a fight. The margarito fight was different he technically never went down because of margarito. Then you say cotto gets hit alot. Then what happened in marquez pacquiao fights? Also the Diaz fight? Im not arguing that marquez isnt a world class fighter im saying you make him seem like hes going to give mayweather more of a challenege whens hes the smaller man and doesnt have no advanages over him. Cotto on the other hand is already pretty fast not as fast as mayweather but faster than marquez. He can bully mayweather more and take more hits than marquez

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      • a-raines21
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        #53
        Originally posted by Precision
        Mayweather is great but he doesn't make Marquez look like a tune up. Thats just being ******.

        Marquez himself is a great fighter. He is the 2nd best in the world.

        Marquez is nobody's "tune up", even if it is a fighter like Floyd.
        if they fight, i can guarantee u will think otherwise

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        • a-raines21
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          #54
          Originally posted by Horus
          I cant believe I am actually agreeing with you but you are 100% correct.
          People on this site dont know by saying JMM is nothing but a tune up for Floyd.

          They are basically saying Floyd is on some mythical level that not even the p4p #2 fighter in the sport can be considered a real fight against floyd...when they are closer in size then floyd vs. 98% of all the welterweights.

          I mean damn, I am a huge floyd fan but even I dont go that far...
          to suggest JMM is just a tune up.

          JMM will give Floyd one hell of a fight because
          #1: he is very smart
          #2: He is not just a typical pressure fighter floyd is used to
          #3: He punches with his eyes open something that Even Mosley and Cotto dont do.
          #4: He skill set is very high.


          Guys realize what you are saying when you call JMM just a tune up...Please realize what you are saying...
          horus,i love your posts, but not this one......

          have you ever seen what happens when jmm comes forward? he gets his ass whooped.......

          what happens when money fights going backwards? he whoops ass.....its really just that simple

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          • a-raines21
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            #55
            Originally posted by Horus
            You make no sense. You make no sense at all..
            jmm is good, but hes at his best when fighting backwards and counterpunching........ also, he had never fought anyone with floyds power........ i really dont see how you can give jmm a chance....

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