Why the Khan-Barrera fight wasn't stopped earlier

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  • Abstraction
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    #51
    I'm pretty sure the guys crying that the fight should have been stopped would have been complaining if the fight had been stopped

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    • nymike03
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      #52
      Originally posted by Memeori
      Barrera wanted to fight on because who wouldn't? especially since it is Barrera.

      Okay I said 3 times that he has the choice to end the fight, which he does because they can clarify it was accidental and he cannot see making the fight dangerous.

      I said he has the Choice to Appeal which he did, not have a choice outright to continue thats is the doctors decision.

      Him appealing has an effect, if he did not appeal then that would give them the impression that he is not happy to continue, its just human nature that the ref would take into account the determination of the fighter, whether it is a right decision is another story.

      The Doctor could of ended the fight but didn't this is a factor that was mentioned, (maybe being biased and wanting Khan to win, who knows)

      This last statement you make is the basis of my question. Take the part of him appealing to continue or not out of it. And your right if he isn't adament about keeping on fighting than maybe it gets stopped earlier. But this had no effect in many other fights where fighters are begging to continue. Stopping the fight in the 5th when he had a dozen other oppurtunities after looking at the same cut to stop the fight isn't right. Stop the fight in rounds 1-4 and call it a no contest or let it go is what im saying. The cut is the same in those rounds as it was in the 5th.

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      • Memeori
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        #53
        The answer is alot of reasons lol.

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        • The Great Shark
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          #54
          Originally posted by KrisSilver
          Predictable.

          Look I bet on, and half rooted for MAB, and I'm English.

          But MAB did not say I can't/won't fight on. He could have when the doc asked him if he was ok and wanted to continue in R1, but didn't, was happy to go on.

          In R3 I think it was, the doc naturally checked again, discussed it, and between them it seemed agreed to give it another round or so.

          Hence MAB went for it, and said as much afterwards. Thing is, he didn't land, and to my surprise, couldn't.

          The end.

          Stop searching out **** that ain't there.
          Obvious response by a European. Look, how many fighters want to quit? None, but its so damn ridiculously biased over there obviously they'd rather give chinny ass Khan the W instead of a NC.
          Last edited by The Great Shark; 03-15-2009, 07:56 PM.

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          • The Great Shark
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            #55
            Originally posted by KingoftheAnts
            Its ridiculous these acusations and anyone that makes them has NEVER fought competitively in their life. When you are fighting injuries dont affect you that much because your adrenaline is pumping and it numbs the pain, I've had blood dripping from ny nose, my eye closing up, I've broken 2 metatarsals and still kept on fighting simply for the fact that I didnt feel it because of the adrenaline as soon as i stopped and got back home I've been laid out for days not being able to walk or see properly.

            It doesnt make a reflection on any fighter just the fact that Khan was too much for MAB at this stage in his career. Its people who cant let go of the fact that MAb just doesnt have it in the tank anymore. it doesnt diminish his legacy one jot. People forget that this is a sport where the veterans get fed to the prospects and these sort of fights are the acid test for any young fighter. If khan was **** MAb would even at this stage have shown it up and laid him on the canvas, I fight compeitively in kyokusin and I will tell you know I would love to have Khans speed and hate to have his chin.

            This fight proves that MAB should hang up the gloves and Khan is made of stronger stuff than previously thought. Nothing more. Wild accusations on both sides to the extreme are ******
            Wow, I'd expect a more thorough explanation with the experience you have. It was apparent he couldn't see and what happens when you're down one eye in a sport where reaction is everything?

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            • GrizzleBoy
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              #56
              Originally posted by elchinoloco
              Wow, I'd expect a more thorough explanation with the experience you have. It was apparent he couldn't see and what happens when you're down one eye in a sport where reaction is everything?
              I was going to make a similar reply towards his ******ed notion (from someone who aparrantly has so much experience) that having a closed eye from round one means nothing in a sport where reaction and depth of field are key, but I just couldn't be bothered.

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              • The Great Shark
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                #57
                Originally posted by GrizzleBoy
                I was going to make a similar reply towards his ******ed notion (from someone who apparently has so much experience) that having a closed eye from round one means nothing in a sport where reaction and depth of field are key, but I just couldn't be bothered.
                Exactly. Reminds me of the Calslappy-RJJ debacle.

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                • ShoguNinja
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                  #58
                  "Benefit of the Doubt!" thats why they did not Stop the fight earlier on in the 1st rd. MAB is a "Boxing Legend", during his fight with Pacquaio... He was being battered ferociuosly in the middle round then on but the ref and his corner didn't stop the fight coz his "MAB" and he has fought from adversity to win in his many fights that he has won. Same with Oscar againts Manny, and we all know what happened their. Champions and Legends are being given leeway to figh back from the brink of defeat or adversity coz they have proven it in the past and they deserve it. Thas what happened with the Khan-Barrera Fight, thay give MAB the "Benefit of the Doubt" that he can still fight eventhough it's a "Bad Cut" coz thats what he has done in the past with all that "Mexican Bravado." Let's not give excuses to fallen Champs or Legends everytime they lost to a "Younger Blood" because thats what we call the "Changing of the Guards" and it will be good for Boxing as a Whole. Fans, Writers, Analyst and Arm-chair Experts may have their opinions and their own-conclusion about whats has happened or what is giong to happened to major fights... Blah! Blah! Blah! But history will remember the "Fights and the Victory" after the victoriuos fighter cease his glory and take it to new heights. Khan is a "Good" Boxer and someday might be a Great one bit MAB is a Great One already... but by giving excuses for him might tarnished some of his "Greatness."

                  Just my Two Cents!
                  Last edited by ShoguNinja; 03-15-2009, 08:29 PM.

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                    #59
                    I am not giving excuses for MAB and I do not think this fight does anything to his legacy. All I am saying is this fight should've been stopped earlier or not at all. Giving MAB the benefit of the doubt is one thing in rounds 1 and 2, but after seeing the cut can not being dealt with than the fight should of been stopped. I will say agaiin, I saw no difference in MAB from rounds 1-4 than in round 5. So either stop the fight earlier or not at all.

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