Bernard Hopkins - Career achievements by age

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That's exactly what I did. Johnson was a better boxer. How else do you think I came to the conclusion that the Johnson win is better?



I'm obviously not alone, and not only that, but some of the most respectable Hopkins fans on here agree with my first post in this thread.



It's exactly what I'm saying. Both were being overrated and it took a superior fighter to give them a one-sided beating to show the rest of the world what the deal is.

Not mad, btw, I just didn't understand why you brought up Lacy's resume, it has nothing to do with what I'm saying! The point was that we have two examples of the much better fighter as the underdog yet they were both completely dominant and shut a lot of mouths. I love it when that happens.

Fair enough. I just thought the Lacy-Calzaghe example was strange because of the quality of opposition. But I get you.

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Am I alone in thinking Pavlik isn't a spectacular win? I rate the Glen Johnson win of 1997 higher.

Totally agree... Wasn't Glen Johnson undefeated at that point and Hopkins is the first to ever knock him out right?

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Sorry mate, but Pavlik is leagues above Lacy.

Pavlik already has big wins in his career. Lacy never had a good win against a mediocre fighter, let alone a big fighter.

WTF? Who compared Pavlik to Lacy?

I compared what happened in those fights and said there are similarities, not in the fighters, but in the way they were dismantled when so many people had Hopkins and Calzaghe getting KO'd by these one-dimentional, overrated young fighters.



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Totally agree... Wasn't Glen Johnson undefeated at that point and Hopkins is the first to ever knock him out right?

Yeah, correct. 32-0 at the time. He wasn't "knocked out" as in out cold, but it was stopped in the 11th. Great fight -- watch it if you can. Bernard was excellent. Very aggressive, smart, and throwing tons of punches. One of my favorite versions of Hopkins.



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[Butterball]

My Hopkins career thread > this one.

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Long Live Hopkins
Top 3 Middleweight of all time
Undisputed Middleweight champ
TOP 50 ATG
Lightheavy champ
Took O's from *Tito, Johnson, Lispey, Pavlik,*

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My Hopkins career thread > this one.

Now now, it's not a competition.