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  • Pullcounter
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    #41
    vasquez definitely quit, but he was anxious for the rematch the rubbermatch and a 4th fight.

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    • DarchinyFAN
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      #42
      We had this discussion in several different threads.
      I'd be with Kellerman, except the tone of his statement isnt a good one. Like he is trying to say something bad about Vazquez, but knows he will get nailed if he comes out and says it, so he qualifies it 1000 different ways and is satisified to just have the conotation of the word "quit" to do his dirty work. Something just doesn't sound right about it, and I cant put into words how its not right just that it isn't.

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      • black.ink
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        #43
        What about Duran? Quitting against SRL has not affected him becoming one of the greatest boxers of all-time.

        Vazquez erased anything from the first fight with two consecutive wins over Marquez in a thrilling trilogy.

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        • TheGreatA
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          #44
          Many great fighters have quit.

          Coming back strong from tough losses shows greatness. I'm not sure if I'd call Vasquez great yet but quitting in one fight doesn't mean he can't ever be great.

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          • -Antonio-
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            #45
            I think he' correct in putting the word in the right context. Sure he quit by definition, but he went through more pain than most of us or any other boxer would have gone through. I dont agree with him saying that it truly defines greatness not to quit though. Some great boxers dont even find themselves in that situation., their face mangled, their body broken down. Even SRR quit by definition. Now he could have died in the ring...

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            • Vasyl’s dad
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              #46
              He did quit. Whats the problem?

              The entire place felt let down after the fight, and some people were truly pissed that he did. Many were highly enjoying the great action and felt cheated,


              until they saw the interview on the screens on the way out and you could see his face blowing up by the second.

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              • Albert Maximo
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                #47
                Just Fear

                I think that what Max wants to say is that it's time to fight.I think what happens is that you are afraid to Juanma Lopez and does not want to fight like Rafael already informed us that no interest is cowardly Juanma time struggling with the terror of the Mexican and the best 122 lb, and if they do not agree to fight just call him quitter.

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                • alphaqfrankie
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                  #48
                  I think also people for get about that fight that Vazquez was coming on in that fight. Marquez was ahead due to the earlier rounds but Vazquez was turning the momentum. He even won the last round that he stopped. Don't forget that. Re watch the fight.

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                  • alphaqfrankie
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by 2501
                    Guess Max didnt know about the injuries Vazquez suffered in the 3rd fight. And he kept fighting.
                    exactly. Vazquez said he could not see from the fourth round. And he fought Marquez with one eye. And won.

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                    • mrlopez
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ..Calderon...
                      Here's a quote from The Ring Magazine...

                      'I like Israel Vazquez a lot. Against Rafael Marquez, in their first fight, his nose was mangled and he stopped fighting. He quit. I'm not saying he shouldn't have quit; I would have quit long before he did. The vast majority of people who ever lived would have quit.

                      'I'm not saying it was a bad decision or that he shouldn't have quit. But what we demand of fighters in order to say that they're truly great is that they don't quit in those circumstances. And he did. Now, Vazquez came back and won two incredible fights against Marquez, and if you want to call him a great fighter, I'm not going to argue with you, reallu. But he quit.'

                      This was for a feature about how he'd do against Wilfredo Gomez.

                      Nonetheless, your thoughts on these comments.

                      Vote. Discuss.
                      Max is a ***in tard, he doesnt do well on HBO, he should go back to espn....

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