Who do you think Won Hopkins-Taylor 1

[dde91]

Hopkins started late bot fights, he lost both and he lost to Calzaghe too.

Hopkins problem is that he doesnt throw punches, and Taylor and Calzaghe outlanded him and out threw him.

i understand. But all fights are CLOSE Decisions. And we are talking about a past prime Bernard Hopkins. Everybody is saying that Calzaghe and taylor would give Hopkins problems in his prime. I dont think so. For being past prime i think he did extremely well.

But i feel in his prime, he would handle jermain and Joe way better because he was younger, and let his hands go more.

[Silencers]

4 years ago i couldn't see Taylor winning. But now i can see the argument of him winning. In rounds i seen Taylor win, Hopkins didn't do nothing. And some rounds are close in my opinion, and it matters how you score the rounds.

Yeah, Hopkins didn't do much in some of the rounds and I gave Taylor 1 or 2 of the close rounds, it was a close fight though, I think I had it 115-113, can't remember exactly, haven't scored that fight in a while.

[dde91]

"outLanded"? No. Just out threw. They didn't actually hit anything though.

That one thing i hate when people say they outlanded him. I just watched Taylor 1 and the landed punch states were punch stats were

TOTAL
96-326 for hopkins 26%
86-453 for Taylor 19 %

Jabs
18-109 for hopkins 17&
36-264 for taylor 14%

Power punches
78-217 for hopkins 36%
50-189 for Taylor 25%



Now he didn't outland him at all with most of his punches being jabs.

[MANGLER]

I've rewatched the fight a handful of times since it happened, and it looked even to me. Bhop won the 2nd imo.

[dde91]

I've rewatched the fight a handful of times since it happened, and it looked even to me. Bhop won the 2nd imo.

it should have BEEN a draw because i cannot see how that judge gave the 12th round to Taylor.
If he would have*SHOULD HAVE* gave it to Hopkins, I think boxing would be different.

[warp1432]

Im a BIG HUGE Hopkins fan... but that night I remember thinking, WORK BERNARD!!!!! WORK!!!!

There is no way that he did enough early to win that fight..... He came on late, but I think I had the fight 8-4 or 7-5....

Now the second fight Bernard won.....

This it is.

[dde91]

This it is.

i didn't wanna do a poll for the 2nd one, because i believe any boxing fan with common knowledge would have Bernard Hopkins winning. But the first fight was very tight.
If Hopkins won those fights, how do you think the rest of his career would play out?

[warp1432]

i didn't wanna do a poll for the 2nd one, because i believe any boxing fan with common knowledge would have Bernard Hopkins winning. But the first fight was very tight.
If Hopkins won those fights, how do you think the rest of his career would play out?

He probably would have actually retired if he fought Tarver after the 2 fights.

[dde91]

He probably would have actually retired if he fought Tarver after the 2 fights.

If he won both Taylor fights and retired after Tarver. Would people have him a higher ATG?

[warp1432]

Taylor in the first fight actually had a good jab and bodywork that gave Bernard problems and Bernard was to inactive to win it.

However in the second fight, he negated pretty much everything Taylor did and the only rounds he lost were 2-6 because he took those off again. He should have gotten the decision though in this fight. Not really sure how anyone scores it for Taylor.