Hatton Sr. Says Ricky Craves the Pound-for-Pound Title

[Dave Rado]

hatton is starting to really fucking annoy me, the working class image he puts out is bull****

WTF? There are lots of things you can validly criticise him for but that isn't one of them. He's as working class as they come.

[Dave Rado]

Hatton has yet to make a solid standing at any other weight class

That has nothing to do with the P4P rankings. They are just a hypothetical and subjective measure of a fighter's eliteness at his peak weight divided by the number of pounds at that weight. Lots of P4P #1 fighters had only ever fought at one weight when they had that ranking (e.g. Hopkins, Hagler).

Bob Foster is ranked #17 in The Ring's "100 most powerful P4P punchers of all time" list, but he didn't carry his power up to heavyweight - yet that didn't count against him when that list was compiled, because it's based on a fighter's peak weight.

[Dave Rado]

But that's why Pac. is number one by moving up

No he was ranked #2 behind only Mayweather long before he moved up, and he was moved to #1 only because Mayweather retired. The wins over David Diaz (who was not a top lightweight) and DLH (who was not a top welterweight) made no difference at all. And as I keep pointing out, lots of P4P #1 fighters have only ever fought at one weight.

[Dave Rado]

as many mentioned i think p4p, should go to the guy who can defeat the best in other weight classes than his natural weight class.

That has never been the way they have worked. P4P is and always has been defined simply in terms of the eliteness of a fighter divided by the number of pounds at their peak weight. Many P4P #1 fighters have only ever fought at one weight.

In your system Williams would be near the top of the current rankings and Hatton wouldn't be ranked. In fact Hatton is ranked #8, and Williams isn't ranked in the top 10.

[Dave Rado]

Because Pac is naturally smaller. Pac is #1 because of the quality of his opposition, impressive performances, and the fact he has been able to move up past his natural weight classes and TAKE BIGGER CHALLENGES which shows how brilliant he is.

If Hatton wins thats great for him and its a good win even though Pac is smaller, but that is not nearly as impressive as stepping up and facing the best guys a division or 2 up above from where he fights. Which is exactly what Pac is doing. What Marquez is doing, what Bhop is doing, what Mayweather did.

Everyone knows Mayweather was a natural 140 pounder but he was so good he could fight at 147 and make more money with no problems. Think about what people would say if Mayweather just sat at 140 and said this is my natural weight Im not gonna fight bigger guys. Sure he had to potshot and wasnt nearly as impressive offensively as he was at lightweight but at least he proved he could do it, he was that gifted.

Hatton has not done that.

Bhop was ranked #1 when he was at Middleweight and had only ever fought at one weight.

When he moved up and beat Tarver, he was only ranked #3.

Ability to move up has absolutely nothing to do with it.

End of story.

[BraveheartNYC]

And as I keep pointing out, lots of P4P #1 fighters have only ever fought at one weight.

But it sealed the deal in everyones eyes, just being Ring's Pound for Pound as great as it is, still has half the people saying no way so and so such be number whatever, after those wins Pac. in everyones eyes became the top fighter in the world across the board.

[EL ANIMAL]

LETS JUST BE SERIOUS HERE FOR A SEC!! hatton will not be the new P4P king if he wins!!!! the media wont let u!! MARQUEZ OR B-HOP WILL TAKE THAT SPOT B4 he does..you'll just have a win like TARVER did when he KO"D ROY!.

[Dave Rado]

Hatton goes to no2 on the p4p list if he beats Manny. How could Pacquaio still be ahead if he loses to him? Hatton is a massive underdog for this fight.

Based on historical precedent, I think #2 is highly unlikely - I don't think anyone has ever gone that high before immediately after beating the P4P #1 fighter. He would be ranked #3 or #4, IMO, and Pac would be one place lower than him. Marquez, Hopkins and possibly Vasquez would all move up one.

[EL ANIMAL]

Also hatton has no where near the quality ofwins against opponents that manny has!! Therefore if he wins he hasnt earned that p4p#1 spot.. Marquez prob has now,,or even b-hop.

[Dave Rado]

pound for pound is meaningless anyway ............ so when mayweather of Marquez or hopkins try and say there pound for pound they sound just as foolish ................................. pound for pound is a opinion for ****s sake !!!!!!!!!!

In the case of The Ring's P4P list it represents the concensus opinion of a large number of highly respected boxing experts. Being The Ring's P4P #1 means that most boxing experts consider you to be the world's best fighter currently.

As such it means far more to most fighters than any number of alphabet belts. It's like winning an Oscar for an actor, it means that you are recognised by the experts as being the best.