MAYWEATHER vs Pacquaio, Hatton,JMM are closer in Size then 98% of the welterweights!!

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  • BoriKua305
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    #41
    Originally posted by Horus
    The way these boards are reacting to a possible
    PBF vs. JMM or PBF vs.Pacquaio or PBF vs. Hatton fight…

    You would think Floyd was a career welterweight…When he was a weltherweight he was the smallest one in the division…Can somebody name 1 welterweight Floyd was bigger than when he was in the division..???


    So When people say Floyd needs to beat a real WW and stop fighting on smaller guys?

    They say that like Floyd 1st or 2nd division was WW and he has been fighting Small guys his whole Career....


    Context
    The WW Division

    Cotto's: 2nd Division
    Margarito's: 2nd Division
    Shane Mosley: 3rd Division
    Andre Berto: 2nd Division (1st:160)
    Joshua Clottey:1st Division
    Kermit Cintron: 1st Division
    Paul Williams:2nd Division (1st:160)
    CarlosQuintana:1st Division
    Floyd Mayweather 4th Division

    If you say Mayweather has grown into the Welther weight division even though that is his 4th Division


    PLease Answer this Direct Question:

    1.If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?
    or do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?

    (w.a.w)= Walk around Weight
    Floyd Mayweather 4th Division (w.a.w) = 150
    Cotto's: 2nd Division (w.a.w) = 170
    Margarito's: 2nd Division (w.a.w) = 174
    Shane Mosley: 3rd Division (w.a.w) = 165
    Andre Berto: 2nd Division (w.a.w)= 164
    Joshua Clottey:2nd Division (w.a.w)= 170
    Kermit Cintron: 1st Division (w.a.w)= 160-162
    Paul Williams:2nd Division(w.a.w)= 165
    Carlos Quintana:1st Division(w.a.w)= 163

    Goggle: Fighter Name Walk around Weight

    Floyd Mayweather seem like the only unnatural ww in the division to me...when he was their... and the smallest...

    So what is this obession with him fighting guys in a division which is his 4th and it is their first of 2nd.. If he never cared for the division, and that is not his natural weight?


    90% of Mayweather career has been at 135 and under...90% !!!!
    what does that meaned to you guys????


    Floyd vs. Pacquaio are closer in Size then 98% of the welterweight division
    Floyd vs. Hatton are closer in Size 98% of the welterweight division
    Floyd vs. JMM are closer in Size 98% of the welterweight division

    So you can say that you think that Floyd is too skilled for fighters his own size..but please dont say he should fight real ww's, when he himself is not a real welterweight...!! 90% career proves that!!
    I get what your tryna say and all , but if he don't wanna fight any of the top fighters in that weight then he shouldn't have been there and called himself the best fighter to begin with. You can't call yourself the best and chose not to fight anyone else at the weight you are at.

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    • Horus
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      #42
      Originally posted by BoriKua305
      I get what your tryna say and all , but if he don't wanna fight any of the top fighters in that weight then he shouldn't have been there and called himself the best fighter to begin with. You can't call yourself the best and chose not to fight anyone else at the weight you are at.
      The thing is, He was P4P best in the World and the undisputed lineal champion so that means he was the best..

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      • Jose Rizal
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        #43
        Originally posted by Horus
        The way these boards are reacting to a possible
        PBF vs. JMM or PBF vs.Pacquaio or PBF vs. Hatton fight…

        You would think Floyd was a career welterweight…When he was a weltherweight he was the smallest one in the division…Can somebody name 1 welterweight Floyd was bigger than when he was in the division..???


        So When people say Floyd needs to beat a real WW and stop fighting on smaller guys?

        They say that like Floyd 1st or 2nd division was WW and he has been fighting Small guys his whole Career....


        Context
        The WW Division

        Cotto's: 2nd Division
        Margarito's: 2nd Division
        Shane Mosley: 3rd Division
        Andre Berto: 2nd Division (1st:160)
        Joshua Clottey:1st Division
        Kermit Cintron: 1st Division
        Paul Williams:2nd Division (1st:160)
        CarlosQuintana:1st Division
        Floyd Mayweather 4th Division

        If you say Mayweather has grown into the Welther weight division even though that is his 4th Division


        PLease Answer this Direct Question:

        1.If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?
        or do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?

        (w.a.w)= Walk around Weight
        Floyd Mayweather 4th Division (w.a.w) = 150
        Cotto's: 2nd Division (w.a.w) = 170
        Margarito's: 2nd Division (w.a.w) = 174
        Shane Mosley: 3rd Division (w.a.w) = 165
        Andre Berto: 2nd Division (w.a.w)= 164
        Joshua Clottey:2nd Division (w.a.w)= 170
        Kermit Cintron: 1st Division (w.a.w)= 160-162
        Paul Williams:2nd Division(w.a.w)= 165
        Carlos Quintana:1st Division(w.a.w)= 163

        Goggle: Fighter Name Walk around Weight

        Floyd Mayweather seem like the only unnatural ww in the division to me...when he was their... and the smallest...

        So what is this obession with him fighting guys in a division which is his 4th and it is their first of 2nd.. If he never cared for the division, and that is not his natural weight?


        90% of Mayweather career has been at 135 and under...90% !!!!
        what does that meaned to you guys????


        Floyd vs. Pacquaio are closer in Size then 98% of the welterweight division
        Floyd vs. Hatton are closer in Size 98% of the welterweight division
        Floyd vs. JMM are closer in Size 98% of the welterweight division

        So you can say that you think that Floyd is too skilled for fighters his own size..but please dont say he should fight real ww's, when he himself is not a real welterweight...!! 90% career proves that!!
        Floyd's just slightly bigger built. Pac and JMM could be formidable at most at 140, but that still has to be proven. 147 is stretching it for those guys where as Floyd would still be dominant at 147 and should still be effective at 154 even coming into the fight underweight. That's how good Floyd is, but he'll have the advantage in size against Pac and JMM. People would probably forgive him taking on Pac because a lot of them want to see it happen.

        Hatton's got no excuse. They keep on emphasizing how a strong and big 140 punder he is that walks around a virtual cruiserweight. He was forced back into his comfort zone after only a brief foray one division north.

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        • Rich Loc
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          #44
          Fight night weights

          Mayweather 5'7 and a half 148 at WW
          Pacman 5'6 and a half 148 at WW
          JMM is 5'7 140 at LW

          Clottey 5'8 170 at WW
          Cotto 5'8 159 at WW
          Margarito 5'11 is 160 at WW
          Williams 6'1 164 at WW
          Mosley 5'9 160 at WW

          Tell me what fighters is Mayweather closes to in size.

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          • Horus
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            #45
            Originally posted by Malcolm.
            Fight night weights

            Mayweather 5'7 and a half 148 at WW
            Pacman 5'6 and a half 148 at WW
            JMM is 5'7 140 at LW

            Clottey 5'8 170 at WW
            Cotto 5'8 159 at WW
            Margarito 5'11 is 160 at WW
            Williams 6'1 164 at WW
            Mosley 5'9 160 at WW

            Tell me what fighters is Mayweather closes to in size.
            You forget that Mayweather is the most Natural welterweight of them all..!!

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            • andrewcuff
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              #46
              Originally posted by Horus
              You forget that Mayweather is the most Natural welterweight of them all..!!
              He's not a natural WW, but he's gradually grown larger throughout his career and he chose to move to 147, no one forced him.

              The main issue I have with Floyd at WW is the fact that he claims he beats anyone 154 and under, but avoids the main challenges.

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                #47
                Originally posted by andrewcuff
                He's not a natural WW, but he's gradually grown larger throughout his career and he chose to move to 147, no one forced him.

                The main issue I have with Floyd at WW is the fact that he claims he beats anyone 154 and under, but avoids the main challenges.
                It's not even the fact that any of those guys can beat Floyd (though I believe a couple have a very good chance), it's just that Boxing fans would LOVE to see these encounters just to see Floyd's skills against the toughest Welters. IMO he's game, so why not make it happen?

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                • Horus
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by andrewcuff
                  He's not a natural WW, but he's gradually grown larger throughout his career and he chose to move to 147, no one forced him.

                  The main issue I have with Floyd at WW is the fact that he claims he beats anyone 154 and under, but avoids the main challenges.
                  If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into?
                  if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?
                  or do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?

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                  • andrewcuff
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into?
                    if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?
                    or do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?
                    And your point is what exactly?

                    Mayweather has the skills to compete in the WW division. Its not as if he'll be KTFO after one round. He might be on the small side, but he's certainly capable of fighting at that weight.

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                      #50
                      Horus butt **** Floyd haters daily.

                      Gotta love it.

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