Old school greats are getting to much credit!!!

[TheGreatA]

Some of the old heavyweights had awful technique and would be bums today.

Maybe in the late 1800's, early 1900's but I'd say that the heavyweights of the past (Tunney, Schmeling, Louis, Charles, Walcott, etc.) had better technique and were better conditioned than most of today's heavyweights.

[Derranged]

mayweather is a disgrace to boxing and shouldn't even be compared to Ray Robinson. SSR defended his titles 5 times in 4 different countries in one month.

What is your obsession with Mayweather?


I mean seriously, get over it.

[nairbon357]

The best response you can get from these guys is something along the lines of:
"19 LOSSES!!!!! WHAT LOSER!!! I DONT CARE IF HE HAD 202 FIGHTS, 19 LOSSES MAKES ANYONE A BUM!!!! FLOYD IS UNDEFEATED!!!!!111!!!!"

I can't believe you said that...

Robinson first loss came after 40 fight, 5 more then Mayweather.
When SRR hit is second loss, he was 128-1-2 and realy start hading defeat in the end of is career, the guy fought till he was around 45, 10 defeat past 40.
Mayweather had the greatest ability I saw in boxing, but I agree with miamijohn, Floyd isnt close to SRR achievement.

I hope you werent serious when you maded your statement?

To answer your thread question: Old timer get credit base on what they've done, it doesnt mean they cant be beat by some of today greatess fighter, but the old timer set the standard.

[S A M U R A I]

I can't believe you said that...

Robinson first loss came after 40 fight, 5 more then Mayweather.
When SRR hit is second loss, he was 128-1-2 and realy start hading defeat in the end of is career, the guy fought till he was around 45, 10 defeat past 40.
Mayweather had the greatest ability I saw in boxing, but I agree with miamijohn, Floyd isnt close to SRR achievement.

I hope you werent serious when you maded your statement?

To answer your thread question: Old timer get credit base on what they've done, it doesnt mean they cant be beat by some of today greatess fighter, but the old timer set the standard.

Of course he wasn't serious. He was saying what the typical response from an ignorant fool would be.

Read again:

"The best response you can get from these guys is something along the lines of..."



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[Roberto1096]

Different era different opponents. Not all the opponents that Sugar Ray fought were big names but his legacy is there because of the memorable ones. When some of the boxers that you see today retired you'll look back and say that was an amazing fight. ex. Corrales vs. Ramirez, Gatti vs. Ward Vazquez vs. Marquez Holyfield vs Bowe.

[nairbon357]

Of course he wasn't serious. He was saying what the typical response from an ignorant fool would be.

Read again:

"The best response you can get from these guys is something along the lines of..."

I'm glad to hear that, lol!

[yesiamhandsome]

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[S A M U R A I]

I'm glad to hear that, lol!

No worries. I understand it's probably a language thing?



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[Fulcrum29]

More than 200!

202 to be exact. Lightweight to light heavy. That dude was special.

and his losses came after he was already way over the hill and had retired once.

In his prime Sugar Ray Robinson had a record of about 133-2 prior to retiring..then after he came back from his retirement and was already over the hill and many weight classes beyond his prime that's when he started losing a lot and ended up having a record of near 200 wins and 19 losses.

Alot of idiots that don't know **** about history just see the 19 losses and say "wow ray robinson ******, why does everyone say he's the best" almost EVERY SINGLE one of those losses was after he had already come back from retirement, was old (mid 30's) and in many weight classes above his prime weight class.
In his PRIME he had a record of 133-2 prior to the joey maxim "tko" that caused him to retire. You think Floyd mayweather can get even half as good a record as that?

[S A M U R A I]

and his losses came after he was already way over the hill and had retired once.

Exactly man. It's crazy that we have never even seen anything from Ray when he was in his absolute prime at welterweight because his fights were not filmed. Real sad, actually. Would love to have seen some of those fights.



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