Old school greats are getting to much credit!!!

[TheGreatA]

Exactly man. It's crazy that we have never even seen anything from Ray when he was in his absolute prime at welterweight because his fights were not filmed. Real sad, actually. Would love to have seen some of those fights.

Some film of a prime Ray Robinson does exist, even if the quality is not all that good.


These are only short clips of Robinson but a lot more footage of these and other rare SRR welterweight fights can be found.

[Fulcrum29]

Some film of a prime Ray Robinson does exist, even if the quality is not all that good.


These are only short clips of Robinson but a lot more footage of these and other rare SRR welterweight fights can be found.

man these videos need to be preserved for posterity before they deteriorate....awe inspiring. Truly the greatest fighter of all time.

[S A M U R A I]

Some film of a prime Ray Robinson does exist, even if the quality is not all that good.


These are only short clips of Robinson but a lot more footage of these and other rare SRR welterweight fights can be found.

Are there any full fights though? Would love to see them if they exist.



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[talip bin osman]

i have no problem with old skool greats getting too much credit... old skool fighters occupy the highest positions and rankings of the most reputable boxing trainers, historians, writers and enthusiasts' ATG lists... if they believe unanimously that these are the fighters that are up there in the stratosphere of our favorite sport's greatest ever practitioners, so be it...

i still like the present crop of fighters more though... i can relate with them more...

[brently1979]

Its the truth and dep inside you know it.

Like who? SRR or ALI? Seriously what's point to this thread.

[brently1979]

SRL lose this one in a mythical match up. Roy jones destroys all fighters from that era too.

I hope your not serious.

[brently1979]

SRR lose to PBF in a mythical matchup. PBF much more athletic and slick than any of SRR past opponents.

Put the crack pipe down for a minute.

If Mayweather told you that you should get a sex change would you believe him? You just seem to believe all that bull**** that he spins.

[Brunswick Assassin]

Its the truth and dep inside you know it.

Stop acting like a 'Tit' and grow up! Learn how to spell also before coming on here and writing crap like this which isn't even worth replying to.

[The Scientist]

OK. Well, to answer your question, I think many (not all) of the younger generation of boxing fans probably don't give enough credit to the old-school fighters and are slightly blinded by hype. They are convinced that, when Floyd Mayweather tells them he is 'the greatest who ever lived', he is correct. They adore his flashy persona, the way he throws money around, his "hip hop" or "street" image, etc., and they want to be just like him. They relate to his persona, and the marketing worked perfectly. I will include you here, as your posts come across as having being written by a youngster, possibly in his teens.

Those of us who have followed the sport for a while longer and/or more in-depth tend to recognize why these old-school fighters are fully deserving of their status as "All Time Greats", and having studied the sport for several decades, we hold their achievements in high regard. These are the fighters who current fighters need to live up to. Unfortunately, most of them don't come all that close. Myself, I have been a keen boxing fan since first watching Muhammad Ali in the late 70's when I was a very young kid.

I hope this goes some way to answering your question as to whether or not I give the old-school fighters too much credit. Obviously, I cannot speak for everyone here, but hopefully I speak for some. Also, I recognize Floyd Mayweather's skills. He is/was a very smart fighter, but his achievements do not compare well to those of greats such as Sugar Ray Robinson, who I consider the greatest fighter of all time, and his brash, immature personality leaves something to be desired.

Fantastic post.

[andrewcuff]

Some film of a prime Ray Robinson does exist, even if the quality is not all that good.


These are only short clips of Robinson but a lot more footage of these and other rare SRR welterweight fights can be found.

Wow that footage is amazing, I've never seen that before. The SRR stuff I have is all at middleweight. Excellent find!