Pavlik-Abraham Offer is Made By Sauerland To Top Rank

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Indeed it should.

But AA still won that fight since it weren't stopped. I think AA's decisionwin was fair, but I agree that the fight should have been stopped.

And Miranda ate a lot of AA's big hooks in that fight. His legs turned to jelly but he never went down. I was very impressed with his heart. So by NSB logic Miranda was softened by the abrahammer. Pavlik just finished it.

I will use that logic for the second fight between Miranda and Abraham. With Pavlik's beating all Arthur had to do was land a flush punch and he would of dropped like a ton of bricks as he did.....

[BattlingNelson]

Okay well by real logic Kelly Pavlik put the kind of beating on him that actually changes fighters.

Or maybe the real change came when AA bombed Miranda out on his hometurf despite 2 broken ribs? A more impressive win than Pavliks IMO since Miranda wasn't weight drained dont you think?

[Pullcounter]

I think arum might make tito/pavlik before AA/pavlik

[BattlingNelson]

I will use that logic for the second fight between Miranda and Abraham. With Pavlik's beating all Arthur had to do was land a flush punch and he would of dropped like a ton of bricks as he did.....

Miranda was weightdrained in the Pavlik fight.

[The Hammer]

No, he is an Alphabet Belt Holder. There is one Linear and Ring Champion, and that is Kelly Pavlik. Arthur Abraham is a contender.

If Kelly is really the champion, then his promoter shouldn't be afraid to put him in the ring with Abraham.

[solly6]

this would be a great fight, hopefully it happens. both fighters have their strengths and weaknesses but I give pavlik the advantage in that he has faced taylor and hopkins two world class fighters.

[Xyei]

Pavlik wants the fight but Arum will no doubt come up with some bull**** excuse.

Yes, this seems to be the case unfortunately. Pavlik isn't the type to duck a fight but Abraham is a risky fight for him to take and Arum probably doesn't want him to get another loss on his record at this point. Old Bob hasn't squeezed out enough from Pavlik yet. This would be a great fight. One that I see Pavlik losing though.

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Or maybe the real change came when AA bombed Miranda out on his hometurf despite 2 broken ribs? A more impressive win than Pavliks IMO since Miranda wasn't weight drained dont you think?

Now Miranda was weight drained when Pavlik beat him into submission? The first flush punch that Arthur hit Miranda with sent him on the canvas, which would support a weight drained claim. If Edison was, as you say "weight drained" in the Pavlik fight he would of been out before the fifth round with all the flush punches that he was hit with. Kelly got to him first IMO.

[Zarco]

they probably submitted a ****ty offer for pavliks part.

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Miranda was weightdrained in the Pavlik fight.

Lying bastard