Pavlik-Abraham Offer is Made By Sauerland To Top Rank

[BattlingNelson]

HAHAHA! Yeah who has Abraham fought besides Kelly's leftovers of Miranda? Pavlik has fought and defeated stiffer competition, buddy.

Psssst. AA was the one who removed the 0 from Miranda's record. Pav ate the leftovers.

Pavlik has a win over Taylor and that's what separates him from AA. On the other hand Pavlik no longer has an 0 in his record.

[hammerhiem]

Ricky Hatton doesn't have ANY of the 140 straps(besides the Golden Boy aka Ring Belt) but he's THE MAN at 140......

You realise that hatton doesn't have a strap because Malinaggi was stripped the week before the fight because he wouldn't fight Ngoudjo again.

Don't blame the fighters blame the dumbass organisations, who with an IQ ranks Ngoudjo over hatton?

[KJB]

Psssst. AA was the one who removed the 0 from Miranda's record. Pav ate the leftovers.

Pavlik has a win over Taylor and that's what separates him from AA. On the other hand Pavlik no longer has an 0 in his record.

Oh PLEASE! AA aint the one that ruined Edison Miranda, be bias as you want to be you and I both KNOW Kelly beat the life outta him. Abraham got his ass beat in that first fight.
And yeah, Pavlik has TWO wins over Taylor that separate him from AA, and the L on his record is irrelevant, AA would got spanked by Hopkins too.
Kelly Pavlik in the MW Champion of the World, Arthur Abraham is a contender.

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Psssst. AA was the one who removed the 0 from Miranda's record. Pav ate the leftovers.

Pavlik has a win over Taylor and that's what separates him from AA. On the other hand Pavlik no longer has an 0 in his record.

It was Pavlik who put a beating on Miranda before Arthur. The first fight between Abraham and Miranda should of been stopped, with Arthurs Jaw hanging off his face. No other competent ref would of let that fight continue.

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Oh PLEASE! AA aint the one that ruined Edison Miranda, be bias as you want to be you and I both KNOW Kelly beat the life outta him. Abraham got his ass beat in that first fight.
And yeah, Pavlik has TWO wins over Taylor that separate him from AA, and the L on his record is irrelevant, AA would got spanked by Hopkins too.
Kelly Pavlik in the MW Champion of the World, Arthur Abraham is a contender.

Arthur did receive a vacant belt while Pavlik had to beat the lineal Middleweight champion in Taylor for it, but Abraham is still a champ in his division.

[KJB]

Psssst. AA was the one who removed the 0 from Miranda's record. Pav ate the leftovers.

Pavlik has a win over Taylor and that's what separates him from AA. On the other hand Pavlik no longer has an 0 in his record.

So much talk about 0's on records. You Europeans, like your Pro Pugilist compatriots, need to realize that your W/L column doesnt make you a legend.

[KJB]

Arthur did receive a vacant belt while Pavlik had to beat the lineal Middleweight champion in Taylor for it, but Abraham is still a champ in his division.

No, he is an Alphabet Belt Holder. There is one Linear and Ring Champion, and that is Kelly Pavlik. Arthur Abraham is a contender.

[BattlingNelson]

It was Pavlik who put a beating on Miranda before Arthur. The first fight between Abraham and Miranda should of been stopped, with Arthurs Jaw hanging off his face. No other competent ref would of let that fight continue.

Indeed it should.

But AA still won that fight since it weren't stopped. I think AA's decisionwin was fair, but I agree that the fight should have been stopped.

And Miranda ate a lot of AA's big hooks in that fight. His legs turned to jelly but he never went down. I was very impressed with his heart. So by NSB logic Miranda was softened by the abrahammer. Pavlik just finished it.

[ALT=_=Assassin]

So much talk about 0's on records. You Europeans, like your Pro Pugilist compatriots, need to realize that your W/L column doesnt make you a legend.

American Floyd fans obsess of his 0 as well. It isn't about nationality or geographic location.

[KJB]

And Miranda ate a lot of AA's big hooks in that fight. His legs turned to jelly but he never went down. I was very impressed with his heart. So by NSB logic Miranda was softened by the abrahammer. Pavlik just finished it.

Okay well by real logic Kelly Pavlik put the kind of beating on him that actually changes fighters.