What Should Calzaghe's Resume Have Looked Like?!

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  • Chunk..
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    #51
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Jones never turned him down. He may have turned down an offer from Showtime but he never turned Joe down. Please.
    There's an article somewhere with Joe saying he wanted the 'Crown ***els' to fight Roy.

    The timing wasn't right for either guy, but this Roy ducked Calzaghe stuff gives me the ****s!

    People forget Joe was a Frank Warren fighter for 10+ years. Frank Warren doesn't send his cash cows to the lions of this sport. Especially a Roy Jones Jr in America.

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      #52
      Originally posted by S.G.
      Why do people continue to bring up the Hopkins vs. Calzaghe stuff..... They fought in the end... Both are/were very good "old boxers" and we still got to see two elite, top 5 pound-for-pound, Hall Of Famers going at it
      I agree, but people bring it up because they say "Calzaghe should have fought Hopkins before he was old.. he waited until Bernard was old!", so when you tell them about the deal that Hopkins pulled out of in 2002, they call you a clown. Genius!



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        #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Yup. If cats want to stop hearing about Calzaghe pulling out against Johnson twice they have to stop spouting the Hopkins ducked him nonsense.
        I dont care about hearing it.

        Its just funny that someone would actually try to equate the two lol

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        • Ishy Aytan
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          #54
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          So Calzaghe pulls out through injury and its ducking.

          But Hopkins doubles his purse demands overnight and you condone it.

          Interesting.
          Oh yes he pulls out THREE times through injury? He got injured during the Jones Jr fight, but rescheduled. He should had rescheduled against Johnson.


          You guys really make me laugh. How can a fighter get injured 3 times.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #55
            Originally posted by Chunk
            There's an article somewhere with Joe saying he wanted the 'Crown ***els' to fight Roy.

            The timing wasn't right for either guy, but this Roy ducked Calzaghe stuff gives me the ****s!

            People forget Joe was a Frank Warren fighter for 10+ years. Frank Warren doesn't send his cash cows to the lions of this sport. Especially a Roy Jones Jr in America.
            Curtis McCormick, a colleague of mine, interviewed Calzaghe years ago where Joe said he never wanted to fight Roy.

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            • S.G.
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              #56
              Originally posted by dans01234
              Questions for Calzaghe fans: If someone like Roy Jones had a similar resume to Calzaghe in terms of fighters faced, what would you think of them? If Roy Jones instead of going up to heavyweight and fighting tough fights with Tarver and Johnson, instead chose to stay at one weight class and rack up defenses, would you be asking the same questions about Roy Jones that people ask about Calzaghe?
              dude don't act like Jones' resume is the example all should follow. People DO ask those questions about Roy

              fact is, elite fighters in general these days have weaker resumes in comparison to the old timers..... Politics, money, over-adundance of weight classes and titles etc. has made it infeasible to expect fighters to be retiring with Ray Robinson-esque records

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                #57
                Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
                And if you have any boxing knowledge what so ever, you know that Hopkins has fallen out with a lot of people in the boxing industry due to him wanting more money for fights.

                How much did he offer Hopkins? $5Million? lol

                He made twice as much fighting Trinidad.
                So you'd rather see Hopkins fight welterweights as long as he makes more money.

                Apparently he only got $3m for Pavlik (same price he agreed on to fight Joe). So I doubt he made that for Trinidad as he would've been taking the short end.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
                  Oh yes he pulls out THREE times through injury? He got injured during the Jones Jr fight, but rescheduled. He should had rescheduled against Johnson.


                  You guys really make me laugh. How can a fighter get injured 3 times.
                  he pulled out twice, not three times Johnson never came back after injury No2.

                  Interestingly neither injury was hand injuries both where back injuries.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Chunk
                    There's an article somewhere with Joe saying he wanted the 'Crown ***els' to fight Roy.

                    The timing wasn't right for either guy, but this Roy ducked Calzaghe stuff gives me the ****s!

                    People forget Joe was a Frank Warren fighter for 10+ years. Frank Warren doesn't send his cash cows to the lions of this sport. Especially a Roy Jones Jr in America.
                    By saying he wanted the "crown ***els" he was saying that he would want a good payday, right? Is there something wrong with that? That doesn't mean he wouldnt have fought, it just means he'd want to make it worth his while because it was a risky fight. Pretty obvious.



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                    • Ishy Aytan
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      So you'd rather see Hopkins fight welterweights as long as he makes more money.

                      Apparently he only got $3m for Pavlik (same price he agreed on to fight Joe). So I doubt he made that for Trinidad as he would've been taking the short end.
                      yeh you keep doubting.... it was the first undisputed middleweight championship match in like 100 years. It sold big time.

                      $2million fighting Pavlik....? You continue making me laugh.

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