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  • THE REED
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    #41
    Originally posted by o z i r
    notice how i said cotto CAN be as fast as floyd

    IMO, he isnt normally as fast because he commits more to his punches.
    Cotto isnt as fast as floyd, and cant be... cotto isnt slow at all.. but floyd edges him in overall speed... whether cotto is trying to be fast or not...

    what cotto has is excellent timing

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    • Electrode
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      #42
      Originally posted by o z i r
      Yes, he's fast but IMO Cotto can be just as fast.

      What Floyd has in abundance is accuracy.
      Cotto is nowhere near as fast as Mayweather.

      He doesn't move as well either...and as for defense..we don't even have to go there

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        #43
        Originally posted by The_Executioner
        Cotto's timing was very good, and Mosley's defense isn't that good to begin with.
        And Shane still got hit less by Tony than did Cotto.

        Shane is a defensive genius compared to Cotto.

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          #44
          Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
          I agree that Floyd's speed might be a bit over rated but know way Cotto can be as fast as Floyd. Cotto seems kinda slow to me and if they ever fought, the difference would be quite apparent IMO. Too bad the fucker will never fight Cotto.
          You have things backwards.

          When did Cotto say he wanted Mayweather??

          Merchant:

          "Are you willing to fight Mayweather.?"

          Cotto:

          "I fights who my peoples tells me to fights"

          Kellerman:

          "Will you fight Floyd Mayweather?"

          Cotto:

          "My peoples tells me to who to fights.."

          Kellerman:

          (Looking at the camera)

          "Well at least I tried"

          LOL

          Just admit it..

          Cotto saw what happed to Hatton and kept his trap shut.

          It was COTTO that wanted no parts of Floyd..not at 140 or 147


          Arum's 8 million offer included Cotto and Hatton for 7 each..


          Floyd wanted 10 million for Cotto and Hatton but Arum said he was delirious.

          Mayweather went on to make over 60 million against Hatton..making Arum look like a fool in the proccess.


          Do you really think Tony was worth 8 million at the time of the alleged offer while Cotto and Hatton were only worth 7??

          C'mon now

          Tony was NEVER worth more than Cotto..let alone HATTON.

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          • krispy kreme
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            #45
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss

            what cotto has is excellent timing
            Co-sign, his timing helped him to outbox both Mosley and Judah.

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            • DLT
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              #46
              I actually think the exact opposite. I think Floyd's hand speed is tremendously underrated nowdays. Now I think anyone with half a brain should know that his hand speed was crazy at the lower weights. If you dispute that or think alot of guys are clos then you are insane. However, I think his hand speed is still alot better at the higher weights the people give him credit for and I talk about this alot. I say that he only looks alot slower or not that fast because he's fighting bigger guys which makes him only throw one punch at a time or pot shot while at the same time he's fighting at a measuered pace.

              You get what Im saying? You would still think he was super fast if he was fighting uptempo and throwing a whole bunch of punches but he hasnt fought that way against the bigger guys so it makes him look slow. Everyone keeps talking about 130 & 135 but even look at his fights at 140 with Chop & Gatti. He was super fast then and most of all, he was super aggressive. Now he doesnt use that same style at WW so it makes him look slower. Ofcourse he's not going to be as fast as a 30yo WW compared to what he was as a 22yo Jr. LW but he's still really fast. You just cant tell as much because of his style but let him fight smaller guys, or go down to 140, or even fight bigger guys who cant push him around like Clottey and I bet you will see some blazing hand speed again.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Electrode
                You have things backwards.

                When did Cotto say he wanted Mayweather??

                Merchant:

                "Are you willing to fight Mayweather.?"

                Cotto:

                "I fights who my peoples tells me to fights"

                Kellerman:

                "Will you fight Floyd Mayweather?"

                Cotto:

                "My peoples tells me to who to fights.."

                Kellerman:

                (Looking at the camera)

                "Well at least I tried"

                LOL

                Just admit it..

                Cotto saw what happed to Hatton and kept his trap shut.

                It was COTTO that wanted no parts of Floyd..not at 140 or 147


                Arum's 8 million offer included Cotto and Hatton for 7 each..


                Floyd wanted 10 million for Cotto and Hatton but Arum said he was delirious.

                Mayweather went on to make over 60 million against Hatton..making Arum look like a fool in the proccess.


                Do you really think Tony was worth 8 million at the time of the alleged offer while Cotto and Hatton were only worth 7??

                C'mon now

                Tony was NEVER worth more than Cotto..let alone HATTON.
                That was an entertaining read. I have heard Cotto say he wanted to fight Mayweather before. Cotto did not duck Mayweather. Regardless, Floyd will not fight him. I'm sure he can make more money fighting Pac or Hatton again if he decides to come out of retirement. Too bad, Mayweather would have boxed circles around Cotto IMO.

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                • tredh
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  I actually think the exact opposite. I think Floyd's hand speed is tremendously underrated nowdays. Now I think anyone with half a brain should know that his hand speed was crazy at the lower weights. If you dispute that or think alot of guys are clos then you are insane. However, I think his hand speed is still alot better at the higher weights the people give him credit for and I talk about this alot. I say that he only looks alot slower or not that fast because he's fighting bigger guys which makes him only throw one punch at a time or pot shot while at the same time he's fighting at a measuered pace.

                  You get what Im saying? You would still think he was super fast if he was fighting uptempo and throwing a whole bunch of punches but he hasnt fought that way against the bigger guys so it makes him look slow. Everyone keeps talking about 130 & 135 but even look at his fights at 140 with Chop & Gatti. He was super fast then and most of all, he was super aggressive. Now he doesnt use that same style at WW so it makes him look slower. Ofcourse he's not going to be as fast as a 30yo WW compared to what he was as a 22yo Jr. LW but he's still really fast. You just cant tell as much because of his style but let him fight smaller guys, or go down to 140, or even fight bigger guys who cant push him around like Clottey and I bet you will see some blazing hand speed again.
                  Good observation.

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                  • Electrode
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                    That was an entertaining read. I have heard Cotto say he wanted to fight Mayweather before. Cotto did not duck Mayweather. Regardless, Floyd will not fight him. I'm sure he can make more money fighting Pac or Hatton again if he decides to come out of retirement. Too bad, Mayweather would have boxed circles around Cotto IMO.
                    When did you hear Cotto say he wanted Floyd??

                    It's easy to tell some Latino TV show or magazine he wanted Floyd...

                    But..

                    When those HBO cameras were in his face HE NUTTED-UP in front of MILLIONS.

                    Max clowned him a little too by saying something like.."Well I tried.."

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                      #50
                      Floyd is faster than Cotto.

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