Klitschko vs. Haye is Falling Apart, Negotiations Suspended

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  • joe strong
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    #131
    did someone actually post swastikas on their page? I'm disgusted to read that.this is a boxing site & there's nothing wrong with a little friendly ribbing because we all have our favorite boxers but spreading that kind of hate over a sight like this is totally unexceptable & I hope I never have to see it posted.I never expected to read that kind of stuff.I thought this was a fun site for everyone to gamble with no real $ & to jokingly slander each other for the fun of it to back our favorite boxers not to spread hate amongst each other.I may just go back to reading the boxing news & stop reading these posts that have nothing to do with boxing.

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    • Da Hammer
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      #132
      like i said before Haye is a fraud, Wlad sends him to skoo all night long! And Haye knows that too thats why he and his camp are bull****ting these negotiations. Just let make Vitali-Haye happen so his bro can brutally KO that fraud back to the cruiserweight division!

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      • Dave Rado
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        #133
        Originally posted by joe strong
        did someone actually post swastikas on their page? I'm disgusted to read that.this is a boxing site & there's nothing wrong with a little friendly ribbing because we all have our favorite boxers but spreading that kind of hate over a sight like this is totally unexceptable & I hope I never have to see it posted.I never expected to read that kind of stuff.I thought this was a fun site for everyone to gamble with no real $ & to jokingly slander each other for the fun of it to back our favorite boxers not to spread hate amongst each other.I may just go back to reading the boxing news & stop reading these posts that have nothing to do with boxing.
        There are a lot of very good posters here, including some who are real boxing experts, and whose analyses are a pleasure to read; and there a few bad posters, and a few others who post good posts most of the time but some not so good ones at other times. And there are also some posters who completely misinterpret some of the posts they read and react with venom to something that wasn't even said. This is the internet - you get all types on the internet. But it's a great site overall, IMO.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 02-18-2009, 06:57 AM.

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        • Davros?
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          #134
          hahaha this is funny this thread seems to have turned into an anti Davros thread lol, almost all those hate posts where just jokes as was the communist conk bit I only posted most of these as a response to other over biased threads towards the Klits, and the Hitler thing was a joke because Tunney kept calling me a Hitler and saying i replaced superior whites with superior blacks or something like that, The Klits are the best heavyweights around today.

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          • Silencers
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            #135
            Richard Schaefer to the rescue?

            David Haye’s trainer/manager, Adam Booth, has been unable to reach a deal for Haye to fight Wladimir Klitschko on June 20 in what would be perhaps the biggest heavyweight bout possible.

            So he handed the reins to the CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, Haye’s U.S. representative.

            Schaefer will negotiate with Klitschko’s U.S. adviser, Shelly Finkel, meaning two Americans could end up making a fight between two Europeans – Haye is English, Klitschko Ukrainian – that would take place in Europe.

            “The negotiations pretty much broke down,” Schaefer said. “Adam called me and asked me to step in so I’m taking over negotiations for that fight. I have an appointment to talk to Shelly (this past Tuesday night).

            “I had a long conversation with Adam. He filled me in on what the issues are. We’ll see what I can do. This is the fight people want to see in the heavyweight division.”

            Schaefer said there have been many obstacles in the negotiations, including the site (England? Germany?), the date and of course the division of the purse.

            “The fact is that Shelly is one of the most-skilled guys at getting deals done, particularly for heavyweight fights,” Schaefer said. “I have a pretty good track record, too. We can get it done.”

            If not, unbeaten Chris Arreola remains an option for Klitschko. However, his promoter, Dan Goossen, isn’t holding his breath.

            “I haven’t heard anything back from them,” Goossen said of Klitschko’s handlers. “And, honestly, I don’t want to be used as a negotiating ploy for Haye and Klitschko to be made. We have been more than willing to fight Klitschko in our next fight. They’re the ones who chose Haye. If we get a call, we’ll deal with it. We’ll make the best deal for Chris.

            “I do have to say I’ve read what Haye said about the money he brings to the table (compared to Arreola). He’s dead wrong. Chris brings tremendous financial benefits both at the site and on HBO.”
            Maybe it can be made after all.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #136
              Originally posted by Silencers
              Fingers crossed. It seems that Booth was out of his depth, but let's hope Schaefer and Finkel can make it happen.

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              • Davros?
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                #137
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                Fingers crossed. It seems that Booth was out of his depth, but let's hope Schaefer and Finkel can make it happen.
                Yeah I think Booth has taken on to much to soon, Hayemaker promotions will do fine at domestic level but they don’t have the experience to negotiate for heavyweight titles as yet, it makes sense for Booth to hand over to Schaefer as its clear both guys want this fight.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by DavrosPremuleas
                  Yeah I think Booth has taken on to much to soon, Hayemaker promotions will do fine at domestic level but they don’t have the experience to negotiate for heavyweight titles as yet, it makes sense for Booth to hand over to Schaefer as its clear both guys want this fight.
                  I get the same impression of Mick Hennessy, and the tortured negotiations with Taylor/DiBella on behalf of Froch - still no signature, and I blame Hennessy (although that fight seems to be almost finalised at last). Hennessy is far more experienced as a promoter than Booth, of course, but not really at this level.
                  Last edited by Dave Rado; 02-18-2009, 06:50 AM.

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                  • Davros?
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    I get the same impression of Mick Hennessy, and the tortured negotiations with Taylor/DiBella - still no signature, and I blame Hennessy (although that fight seems to be almost finalised at last).
                    I think thats true, now with GBP negotiating on Haye's behalf i would hope to see the fight signed in the next few weeks.

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                    • Phatfarm1980
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                      #140
                      Although i'm british and hope haye whoops the klitschkos. I hope this fight doesn't come off.....yet. Haye has had one fight at heavyweight against monte barrett. Noway on earth can beating barrett give you a decent chance of beating the klitshkos. He needs atleast 2 more fights at heavyweight. Yeah, he's brought new life into a otherwise dull division. But, hasn't even earned his shot!

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